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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2451: Dec 25th 2010 at 10:26:13 AM

Everyone, I present to you, FLYING PALM TREES!! (Or at least where they live)

Habitat

Tropius mainly live in the tropical region of Hoenn, though a very few of them can be found in the warmer climates of Sinnoh. As Tropius are rather rare due to the very specific number of qualities an environment must have in order for them to thrive, they are considered a Threatened Species by the Hoenn Pokemon Protection Agency™ , similar to the Lapras species native to the Orange Archipelago and Sevii Islands are considered Endangered by the Johto-Orange-Kanto-Sevii Unified Pokemon Protection Agency™. Despite this, they are still available for capture and are able to survive any climate changes faced by the use of the HM Fly.

Wild Tropius are often found where there is fertile soil, so they can be in areas where they can find fruit-bearing plants year-round. They can be seen either near inactive volcanoes or in bustling rainforests. They are very picky about heat, for as grass types if they are too hot they could easily burn themselves. Despite their typing, they are in need of heat, especially considering their cold-blooded nature. They are rarely found in an environment that is colder than 64 degrees Fahrenheit (16 degrees Celsius).

Most Tropius decide not to take the risk of living in or near a volcano, and instead situate themselves in the tropics, where the humidity is high and rainfalls are plentiful. Their herbivorous diet consists for lots of plants, such as those that grow on Large Trees or the tall grass found in Hoenn’s Route 119.

When found near the mountains, they always choose the warmest climate around said mountain, ranging from the south side of the mountain to the closest proximity towards the top of a volcano. Volcanoes are a favorite pick for Tropius in the mountains, since the soil is fertile and grows good plants, as well as providing heat and sunlight for photosynthesis.

The Tropius of Sinnoh mainly stay close to the Great Marsh, noted by most natives as the warmest and muddiest place in the entire region. The regular intervals of rain available in the Great Marsh plus the unnaturally humid climate makes it a good candidate for Tropius to gather, though the current number of Tropius in the area is unknown and they are rare to find.

edited 27th Dec '10 8:43:11 AM by CalamityJane

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#2452: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:14:54 AM

I'll probably take Diet. Are their fruits grown by their body, or are they symbiotic plants?

The tricky part about that "fertile soil" bit is that I can't figure out how a Tropius would take advantage of it. They don't seem like the type to put down roots.

Though, I guess they could just prefer regions with fertile soil because that ensures access to lush vegetation.

Does a typical Tropius have a bit of an organizational streak? To the point of being a Vigilante Taxonomist? tongue

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SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#2453: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:16:17 AM

... and Sevii Islands are considered Endangered by the Kanto-Johto-Sevii-Orange Unified Pokemon Protection Agency™

I Read That As J.O.K.S. [lol]

Besides that, this para:

As Tropius are rather rare and the very specific number of qualities an environment must have in order for them to thrive, they are considered a

...sounds like you accidentally your sentence.

Besides that, all nice and dandy IMHO. Liked the reference to the Tall Grass™.

EDIT: If someone wants to take social structure, I'd like to help them with that.

edited 25th Dec '10 11:17:14 AM by SilentReverence

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lockonlockon Game Master from In a dream Since: Jan, 2001
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#2454: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:16:30 AM

Are we including the anime as a valid source for this?

AKA, should the Orange islands be allowed or not?

Also, remind me, are animals a separate existence from Pokemon? (I seem to recall yes.)

Furthermore, are Pokemon in a preexisting kingdom or not?

edited 25th Dec '10 11:19:55 AM by lockonlockon

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2455: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:21:35 AM

@Tangent: The fertile soil bit was just put there because I got a silly idea of Tropius dunking their heads into the soil and eating roots for Diet (just like the way Ostriches don't), but I'm not in charge of that so I didn't know where to put it.

@Reverence: I SHALL FIX. Also J.O.K.S. is so clever and accidental that it is now officially their name.

@Lockon: But the J.O.K.S. acronym would be destroyed!

edited 25th Dec '10 11:23:23 AM by CalamityJane

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lockonlockon Game Master from In a dream Since: Jan, 2001
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#2456: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:24:45 AM

You can replace it with Orre which is about 1000 times cooler.

Also, I seem to recall Orre being based on Arizona, are we to assume it is on the same continent as Isshu/Unova?

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2457: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:29:07 AM

I always assumed Orre was just the Poke-Analogue to China in terms of where it was located.

If Orre IS part of Unova, there's no way it can have anything to do with Kanto/Johto, seeing as Unova is based on New JersYork, which is on the other side of the United States and thus practically on the other side of the planet to Japan in Real Life.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#2458: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:35:13 AM

In the absence of other information, we can assume Orre is linked to Unova, yeah. It has a western flavor, what with the wrecked train and everything. So probably not in a jurisdictional unit with Kanto/Johto/Orange-Sevii Islands.

We use whichever sources are most helpful/sane/interesting. So, the anime's fair game, as are the trading card game, manga, games, collectible figurines, etc.

The real animal thing... we're still not sure, so we're being vague for now.

Burrowing Tropius? Hmm... tongue

edited 25th Dec '10 11:37:10 AM by Tangent128

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2459: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:43:00 AM

Whoever decides to do Tropius' Behavior either has to take a few notes from Trope Tan or give it some Blue-and-Orange Morality in the shape of not being bad but not being good either.

Or they could just make it Always Chaotic Evil. Whichever works.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#2460: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:51:29 AM

It looks more like the Gentle Giant sort, really. Especially with the blurbs saying that it lets children eat its fruits.

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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#2461: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:54:12 AM

I'm not exactly sure about the fertile soil thing. Gameplaywise it can't learn Ingrain or Dig.

[up]It's definitely a Gentle Giant.

The bunches of fruit around Tropius's neck are very popular with children. This Pokémon loves fruit, and eats it continuously. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit.

Children of the southern tropics eat as snacks the fruit that grows in bunches around the neck of Tropius. This Pokémon flies by flapping the leaves on its back as if they were wings.

edited 25th Dec '10 11:55:07 AM by Marioguy128

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2462: Dec 25th 2010 at 12:00:32 PM

[up]I could always get rid of Fertile Soil Desu, though that did help to unify the two extremes of Rainforest and Volcano together (since volcanish ash = fertile soil the same way warm weather + lots of rain = fertile soil).

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Chronix Better than a cross. Since: May, 2010
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#2463: Dec 25th 2010 at 1:33:50 PM

Maybe they just eat the dirt?

Come children, feats on my delicious neck-fruits yaaaaaaay.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2464: Dec 25th 2010 at 1:36:09 PM

Just 2 fast things about posts from 2 pages before: Wailmer and Wailord are in the same Egg groups, and Skorupi and Drapion's pincers are (just like in real scorpions) not arms, but mouthpieces (correct me if I skipped something and that was already addressed).

EDIT: And, about the Houndour line, well, Poochyena is a hyena, not a dog; hyenas are large predatory mongooses (mongeese?), closer to cats that to dogs (and the anathomy of Mighthyena really Shows Their Work, it is very brown hyena-like). Houndour is based on a doberman with hellhound traits, so it would be far closer to the also domestic-dog like that either to things like Vulpix; and Poochyena is out of the question. Going by basic Carnivora taxonomy, that's it, it irks me every time I see hyenas refered to as dogs, and this is another example of that (and, Poochyena and Mightyena are more of Com Mons that expies of Houndour and Houndoom)... Just my opinion though.

edited 25th Dec '10 1:45:37 PM by Eriorguez

Chronix Better than a cross. Since: May, 2010
Better than a cross.
#2465: Dec 25th 2010 at 2:36:23 PM

I know for a fact that Wailmer is Water 1/Water 2 and that Wailord is Water 2/ Ground

edited 25th Dec '10 2:38:07 PM by Chronix

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2466: Dec 25th 2010 at 2:45:12 PM

Too bad it is not:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Wailmer http://serebii.net/pokedex-bw/320.shtml http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/wailmer

And you can try that in-game by leaving Wailmer and Delcatty in the daycare.

You are mistaken, check again before stating things. ;)

lockonlockon Game Master from In a dream Since: Jan, 2001
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#2467: Dec 25th 2010 at 2:50:23 PM

But how can they call pikachu a mouse Pokemon if there is no such thing as a mouse?

For that matter, what about that pokedex entry mentioning an Indian elephant?

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2468: Dec 25th 2010 at 2:52:22 PM

Is there any incentive to finish this before New Years? I don't mind waiting, and who knows? Maybe this article will end up being enough to challenge the Nido Article! Only time will tell. Though for now, I would like to tell you all this:

Merry Christmas!

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SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#2469: Dec 25th 2010 at 2:53:42 PM

Hello, read the Magcargo entry. [lol]

Oh ARCEUS, we MUST campaign to make Tropius the official TV Tropes Mascot Steed! (mascot place taken by Tropey)

edited 25th Dec '10 3:24:11 PM by SilentReverence

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2470: Dec 25th 2010 at 2:58:34 PM

I agree with Reverence! At the very least, we must give it some status with Trope Tan, perhaps on par with Tropey the Wonder Dog? A steed, perhaps?

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Chronix Better than a cross. Since: May, 2010
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#2471: Dec 25th 2010 at 3:35:01 PM

And get our asses sued?

SURE!

Sorry about that Eri, a troll must've gotten to the page, ill be sure to edit it back.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#2472: Dec 25th 2010 at 5:55:07 PM

Hmm... I should set up tv.tropi.us to redirect to something. Just the tropes home page, a Pokémon page in particular, or something else? tongue tropi.us has been left unpointed long enough, I need to do something with it already

So, Jane, was that your image, or did you just find it at a good time?

Getting a full Tropius first draft by New Year's would be nice. I'll try to do Diet by tomorrow afternoon. But for now, Doctor Who!

edited 25th Dec '10 5:55:46 PM by Tangent128

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CalamityJane from None of your business Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#2473: Dec 25th 2010 at 6:30:37 PM

@Tangent: Yeah, I made the pic. Something to cheer myself up after nonstop downpour!

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#2474: Dec 25th 2010 at 7:04:04 PM

But how can they call pikachu a mouse Pokemon if there is no such thing as a mouse?

For that matter, what about that pokedex entry mentioning an Indian elephant?

I always assumed classical animals are known, maybe still around depending on relative prevalence in the food chain. Top-tier predators have likely died out due to competition (lion vs. lion that farts lightning, QED), but things like mice, bugs, and fish are probably thriving.

lockonlockon Game Master from In a dream Since: Jan, 2001
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#2475: Dec 25th 2010 at 7:16:24 PM

I suppose that makes sense.

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