I think Aura/Obscura are simply specific permutations of a much more general phenomenon, one that includes Dark, Psychic, and possibly even some of the stranger Normal attacks. Hell, if we consider the full implications of Hidden Power, every element may fall under its jurisdiction one way or another.
Also can we come up with a different name for this? Saying Aura/Obscura every time sounds kind of clunky.
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!Well, the only thing I can think of for this idea as a whole would be some kind of name that you'd find in a Noble Gas like Hydrogen or something. But I'm not the best when it comes to names, so I just plucked out what I thought sounded best.
Please consider supporting my artwork on PatreonWell for one thing Hydrogen isn't a Noble Gas. But we can find some sort of weird Minovsky Particle type thing for this. We've already crossed that line with Regicite anyway.
edited 3rd Apr '11 8:33:25 AM by Neo_Crimson
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!Oh, it's not? Guess I need to look at the Periodic Table again... Ah well. I'll try to figure out a name for it. Eventually.
Please consider supporting my artwork on PatreonThe subject for tonight's chat I guess?
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!I figure Secret Power works something like Geomancy.
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!One of two at any rate. We were talking about doing brainstorming in the form of an RP. Tangent can explain it better.
Noble Gas= Everything on Group 18.
edited 3rd Apr '11 8:56:42 AM by rmctagg09
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.That explanation doesn't fly, we can't just say it's magic and be done with it. We're not Doing In the Wizard either, but rather examine supernatural phenomenon under the lens of rationality.
edited 3rd Apr '11 9:10:46 AM by Neo_Crimson
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!Well, we can say it is magic with a somewhat well-known set of rules, like "where you summon is what you get" and something more, deeper. Then again, "Magic" would not be the better term for it, as people tend to think of stuff like magic, religion, ..., as "everything science can not explain". I'd suggest Environmental Arts. Also, unscientific ≠ unexplainable, in particular if we dig in a Pokémon setting.
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?An RP?
That could be fun...
Well, we know for an undisputed fact that the entire pokemon world is Polytheistic and every Poke-God does in fact exist, so that kind of throws off 100% cold hard science. There's definitely going to be ambiguities and unknowns in this world.
Please consider supporting my artwork on Patreon@Silent: Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Say its magic but remove the mysticism.
@Jane: Of course, that ambiguity is what I was going for when I wrote the Gastly article and the Regi articles.
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!Hm. I like the Regi article, but the Gastly Article seems a little too ambiguous to me. Oh well. No skin off my bones.
Please consider supporting my artwork on PatreonAnyone remember Hunterx Hunter? There was this one Black dude; he could use the "Nature Spirits" (actually the nen of the forest life) to Exorcise other nen uses. He used it to free the leader of the Spiders from the chain on his heart. Maybe Secret power is like that? A form of Omni-sac energy manipulation; but instead of the source being from within the Pokémon, it's external?
Let's make a TCG!Mmm, the opposite of Aura? There is no opposite of a cell, or opposite of Aluminum. Obscura would fit better as another kind of Aura.
Also, remember that Aura is "Pulse" in Japan. Pulse, as in Dragon Pulse, Water Pulse and, of course, Dark Pulse. So, obscura can be another kind of "pure" Aura, but completely different from pure Aura...
Mmm, Reshiram and Zekrom have to get involved there, they seem to embody pureness in 2 different ways... Lets wait for Grey, however.
The aforementioned RP idea:
Recall that our goal is to paint a coherent, immersive world. Naturally, detail is important to this goal. In-article detail is getting pretty good these days; if the article isn't already extensively researched, thread or chatroom discussion provide plenty of buffing.
But immersion also depends on connections. Any area is going to have many Pokémon species living in it, and they have to deal with each other daily. This includes human settlements as well.
As is, articles have detail on their subject 'mon, but not much on how they interact with the subjects of other articles. And the details that they do focus on are usually the more exceptional aspects of behavior. Which is perfectly understandable; you would expect an in-universe encyclopedia to focus less on common knowledge the reader is expected to already know.
Still, we don't have a very clear picture of what composes normal, everyday, life in the Pokéverse. It seems to me that a good tool for researching this would be to simply play out different scenarios and see how they fit.
Of course there are many perspectives to examine, so a vignette approach may be in order. We play a scenario for a few days in-game, probably about a week in real life. Silent suggested we maintain a queue of topics we're interested in covering. So we would examine topics such as "Would Hoothoot cooperate, coexist, or compete with Furret?", "How does a Cubone tribe react to human construction in their domain?", "It is last last day of the school year for some students of Training age. What does the beginning of a journey look like for them?".
Thoughts? Scathing critiques?
Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?That's why I'm saying that Aura and Obscura are part of the same thing. Like how visible light and Radio waves are both still waves but at different frequencies.
I see where your coming from I don't think an RP is the right way to do this. I think its best for the reader to ultimately come up with how the world actually works. We give them information and let them piece it together themselves. That's why I try to put a tiny bit of ambiguity in some of my articles. I think an RP showcasing "this is EXACTLY how society works" would be going too far into enforcing our Fanon. If must do that, I'd like us to be more subtle than that.
edited 3rd Apr '11 3:13:30 PM by Neo_Crimson
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!hmm...RP for the purpose of exploring pokemon/pokemon and pokemon/people interactions...
and interesting idea, though I'm not sure how effective it would actually be. Definitely worth a try, at least.
edited 3rd Apr '11 3:11:17 PM by Blissey1
XP granted for befriending a giant magical spider!Dragonfree does this so well I consider her works canon.
Let's make a TCG!I see it as more of a research aid for a perspective to write the articles from; the articles can be interpreted however the user wants. But we can better think about how topics interact this way, even if some products are chosen to be ignored downstream.
edited 3rd Apr '11 3:20:48 PM by Tangent128
Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?I'm ambivalent to this RP idea, personally; I can see the pros and cons inherent in the premise. Still, regardless of my feelings on the subject it's doubtful as to whether or not I'll participate; I'm heavily involved in a large number of other R Ps, as well as stuff IRL, so I most likely wouldn't have the time.
On a different note, Cobalion is just about done; I'll be posting it tomorrow. Also, I went and created a Pokemon of my own today; I can provide a link to it, if anyone's interested in seeing it.
The Danse Macabre CodexAn RP sounds kind of interesting. It'd be my first online though, since I tend not to get involved with online communities much. Anyway.
Another move which varies based on terrain is Nature Power - which varies even more so since it turns into a whole other move (such as Swift, Stun Spore, Earthquake, Hydro Pump and so on). Secret Power only changes a bit in that the side-effect attached to the move changes and it could just be explained by Pokemon with the move using features from their environment in the attack to their advantage (although how it can then create mysterious holes and treehouses is beyond me right now). Nature Power definately doesn't have that luxury.
I have no problem with "magic" in these explanations, just so long as they are consistent and an attempt is made to explore whatever it is and how it appears to work. When writing up the Misdreavus article, the way I dealt with Mismagius' enchanting/cursing ability was basically by mentally declaring it magic then writing out what could be observed.
So I added an 'Abilities' section to the Frillish Article and explained Cursed Body. Would it be ready for publishing now?
Please consider supporting my artwork on PatreonI think it'd be better as apart of notable biology, just to avoid to much deviation from the usual article layout.
XP granted for befriending a giant magical spider!
I thought that my Aura/Obscura theory was sort of like the theory of cells. We know for a fact that Aura exists in the Pokemon World, and Obscura was just my idea of what 'the opposite of Aura' would be. Nothing says any human or pokemon is unable to call upon Aura/Obscura as an energy source of some kind, and the we have pokemon like Lucario that utilize Aura in its entirety and actually moves it around sort of like an airbender.
Now it's okay if you don't like the theory, nobody said you had to. You can make an article and not include any of that particular theory if you want. But that's just my attempt to explain the most 'paranormal' of the Pokemon Typings, such as Ghost, Dark, Psychic and Fighting.
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