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Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
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#17376: Nov 28th 2015 at 11:25:21 PM

Episode 261:

  • Hmm... Looks like Mavis in a crystalLumen Histoire is so awesome, no one must know of its awesomeness. Its power better be worth the trouble.
  • Grey's Devil Slayer hits Mard Geer hard. But that was his base form...
  • Ah, so the Demon Gates were programmed to off Zeref. ...Wait, if Zeref wanted to die so badly, Edolas seemed like the perfect place for him. No magic, END unleashed, dead Zeref. Too bad the path is now closed.tongue
  • OF COURSE that's Genma's reason for becoming a demon. That fight will be as interesting as watching paint dry.
  • Also, these fights take place before Face goes off. Kyoka really took her sweet time kicking Erza's butt before losing, huh?

edited 28th Nov '15 11:25:57 PM by Diamite

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#17377: Nov 28th 2015 at 11:28:06 PM

To answer my own question, I'd go with better character development in general. I think Mashima's plotting in characters are actually pretty good when all is said, it's the execution of fights and the characters never actually changing that's the problem.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17378: Nov 28th 2015 at 11:39:22 PM

One change in Fairy Tail...this is really hard because the thing I dislike the most about Fairy Tail is how anticlimatic the fights end up being, and I otherwise enjoy almost everything else to some degree. Almost everything.

I would remove Fairy Sphere's anti-aging. I prefer instead the idea of Fairy Tail's most powerful members Faking the Dead after tricking Acnologia into thinking he won, and secretly training on Tenrou Island for the next 7 years. This would also remove the need to introduce Second Origin, another plot point I never really liked.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#17379: Nov 29th 2015 at 10:44:03 AM

One change in Fairy Tail...this is really hard because the thing I dislike the most about Fairy Tail is how anticlimatic the fights end up being, and I otherwise enjoy almost everything else to some degree.
So wouldn't "less anticlimatic fights" be an easy answer, then?

Keep to the main six elements for Dragon Slayers.
Wait, which one of them isn't "main?" Cobra's poison shenanigans?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17380: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:17:27 PM

So wouldn't "less anticlimatic fights" be an easy answer, then?

It sounds like it should be, but I feel like I wasn't just thinking hard enough about anything else I disliked more before I was done typing that line.

It's number 2 on my "one thing I'd change about Fairy Tail" thought

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#17381: Nov 29th 2015 at 4:44:39 PM

I'd fix Hiro's insistence of making the S-class Fairies capable of one shotting Natsu,silly as it sounds.It causes some troubles when it comes to the Sorting Algorithm of Evil .

And maybe have the characters compare the opponent's P Ls (hehe , yeah ) with that of previous ones.E.g,To H Jellal=Laxus<Zero=Bluenote= LSD Froggy (hah),with Gildarts being a bit higher<(Healthy) Makarov=Patched Hades=Bruh Geer<Unpatched Hades and Etherias Geer.Then we get Spriggan tier Gildarts.

Eeek,character tiers,now I feel sick.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17382: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:01:09 PM

Even with the patch Hades and Mard Geer are likely stronger than Makarov. Makarov did lose when he realized Hades had his own Law and so they both couldn't use that spell. Mard Geer probably does rival Hades in strength, but he also went against Gray who had a magic that was his specific weakness and was toying around with the Dragonslayers before his arrival.

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#17383: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:07:39 PM

While Makarov did get tossed around there,he matched Hades pretty well before his heart attack.Hence the (healthy) bit.Not healthy Makarov is below Happy level.He's been stuck there for a while. tongue

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#17384: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:09:16 PM

Wait, Makarov had a heart attack?

edited 29th Nov '15 5:10:05 PM by LSBK

KOman 'Sup? Since: Jul, 2013
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#17386: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:12:29 PM

Huh. Well one good thing I will say is that I like how Mashima dropped the Dirty Old Man bit with Makarov pretty quickly.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17387: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:27:01 PM

@Alekos: Well he is old.

Though Hades is even older than him.

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#17388: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:47:08 PM

Hades has support from Fairy Heart 2.0 though. tongue

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17389: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:48:56 PM

Yeah but it's something he made himself to help with his magic power. So he used his knowledge to his advantage.

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Silentedge89 Optimistic Cynic Since: Apr, 2012
Optimistic Cynic
#17390: Nov 30th 2015 at 2:36:28 AM

Raws up

Bit short, but damn, ashing Zeref in a single attack at the end, while anti-climatic (and I doubt it'll be the end of him) was fucking impressive.

Edit: Chapter's out now.

edited 30th Nov '15 6:38:15 AM by Silentedge89

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#17391: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:50:56 AM

[up] Mashima: "Fiiiiiine. Natsu wont win this one......But I wont have him get beaten to a pulp either! I'll make him look as awesome as possible by having him smack the shit out of freakin Zeref himself before retreating once that cheater's immortality kicks in! See? Natsu is undoubtedly not a sue!"

Me: -eyeroll-

edited 30th Nov '15 6:52:35 AM by nervmeister

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#17392: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:11:27 AM

Ah,I think this chap shows why Zeref has to actually fight in order to die.Good ol'Ankhseram.The more he clings to life in a fight,the more "damageable" he is.While at the end he went back to full Death Seeker mode.Which probably made him more immortal.That jerk.

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FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#17393: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:17:09 AM

"Zeref you just don't learn... Thought you'd have an immortal girlfriend to be with you through the years.

NOPE, Your killing curse overrides her cursed immortality and you learn the valued lesson that the only way you'll get rid of that whole virginity thing is to have meaningless sex with women you won't remember their name in a week afterwards.

Oh whats that Zeref you've been annihilated by the sheer scorching heat of a thousand suns, well thats a **** to regenerate from i guess i could let you die finally.... oh its what you truly in your heart of hearts wanted to be killed by your little brother... Here let me help you with that...."

D
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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#17394: Nov 30th 2015 at 9:03:24 AM

Huhโ€ฆ Whatever you might say, I found the chapter pretty good and intense. Yeah, there's little chance that Zeref will be dead next week, but still.

sorako Since: Oct, 2012
#17395: Nov 30th 2015 at 10:26:29 AM

Here I'm only surprised Mashima at the end will give Lucy's mom some importance. I remembered the thing that she died the same year as the dragons disappeared, but I thought I would mean nothing by now. At least she seemed to be important to Zeref, wonder what that will be about.

And yeah, I expect Zeref getting reduced to nothing by a single punch from Natsu won't be the end of this.

edited 30th Nov '15 10:28:24 AM by sorako

Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#17396: Nov 30th 2015 at 1:47:28 PM

My friend just sent me a comment from someone who said that Natsu's insides were bulletproof and that he could eat any form of energy.

Jesus, this fandom.[lol]

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#17397: Nov 30th 2015 at 1:48:52 PM

You can bet he could've eaten the lasers in his coliseum fight if he put his mind to it.

edited 30th Nov '15 1:49:14 PM by Adannor

Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#17398: Nov 30th 2015 at 1:54:33 PM

I find it hilarious when more extreme fans make shit up. I read one comment say the that the speed of light was slow compared to DBZ characters.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#17399: Nov 30th 2015 at 2:15:36 PM

Fans can be crazy. I know a couple. I got these friends I hang out with & whenever the topic comes up they always say Goku can beat Superman. The problem there is that there so pigheaded & fucking annoying about it that they immediately turn down any discussion on the matter cause they cant offer much of a reason besides loving Goku & finding Superman a boring loser which is totally untrue.

edited 30th Nov '15 2:16:34 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#17400: Nov 30th 2015 at 2:20:40 PM

I'm in the position of increasingly finding that sort of thing to be pointless- one needs to recognize that Power Levels will never not be arbitrary, especially if you're comparing them across different canons.


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