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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#351: Jun 3rd 2015 at 3:53:47 AM

Didn't Voyager then nap B5's SFX contractor?

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#352: Jun 3rd 2015 at 6:46:42 AM

[up]Yes, before it closed, Foundation Imaging moved to Paramount to do the SFX for Voyager: hence the criticism that "Species 8472" look like the Vorlons or Shadows. A nasty unfounded rumor that dogs the Voyager staff to this day.

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#353: Jun 3rd 2015 at 7:03:52 AM

To be fair, the resemblance is there...I'd just chalk it up to accident and unintended rather than deliberate choice.

Its not like Voyager has enough well founded things that you can complains about :P

edited 3rd Jun '15 7:04:15 AM by 3of4

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#354: Jun 7th 2015 at 8:38:50 AM

The biggest problem with Season 5 of the show was no Claudia Christian as Susan Ivanova. We probably all know the different versions of why she wasn't in it so there's no point in my rehashing. What's true is that the show was poorer without her.

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#355: Jun 7th 2015 at 2:01:20 PM

Capt. Lockey was good, Tracy Scoggins is a great actress (hard to believe she was Lana Lang in Lois & Clark and a Cardassian on Deep Space Nine). But the Byron arc would have been a little better with Ivanona in charge.

Byron was just so poorly written. He's like a vegan crossfit tumblr user lecturing someone who just wanted to sit and enjoy her candybar. There was good in season five but JMS and the series had been dicked around by the closer of PTEN and then by TNT.

Crusade was Firefly before Firefly: TNT didn't know what to do with it and screwed it badly.

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#356: Jun 23rd 2015 at 10:13:33 AM

My biggest problem with Lochley was that for the beginning of the season she was just... there. They didn't seem to give her any character development until Day of the Dead, which is almost midseason.

Then there was the Byron arc. I didn't hate it, but I didn't really care about it that much either. Lyta got some development, which was good, but other than that I just kept hoping that Vir, G'Kar or Londo would be in the episode and/or get more screentime.

In the latter half of the season I got my wish, but it felt like it took forever to get there.

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#357: Jun 23rd 2015 at 10:41:27 AM

Part of the problem with Captain Lochley is that many of the scripts she appeared in originally featured Captain Ivanova, and had to be tweaked for the new character, rather than written with her in mind.

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#359: Jul 28th 2016 at 11:39:48 AM

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#360: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:24:46 PM

sad

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#362: Jul 28th 2016 at 8:38:01 PM

RIP Jerry Doyle, he's having a party with Tim Choate, Andreas Katsulas and Richard Biggs.

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#363: Jul 29th 2016 at 1:37:06 AM

RIP, mister Doyle. You were great.

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#364: Jul 29th 2016 at 9:39:57 PM

Sad to see that. RIP Mr. Doyle.

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#365: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:08:40 AM

This thread reminds me, I need to start watching this show again with the missus. I got her started on it by telling her that Tron shows up in season 2. She's not hooked yet, but she's been generally interested by what she's seen so far (plus, I tend to geek out while watching the show, a trait she happens to find adorable).

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#366: Jan 5th 2017 at 12:33:31 PM

Are you watching all the episodes of season 1, or are you skipping the unimportant and forgettable ones?

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#367: Jan 5th 2017 at 1:28:26 PM

If I were to skip all of the unimportant and forgettable episodes of season one, that'd just knock out TKO, wouldn't it?

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#368: Jan 5th 2017 at 2:45:27 PM

And Infection. And I'm pretty sure there were other pretty mediocre episodes in season 1 that contributed nothing to the overall Myth Arc.

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#369: Jan 5th 2017 at 6:48:11 PM

False. Infection has Ducky. And aside from a War of the Worlds joke, nothing else of value.

edited 5th Jan '17 6:48:29 PM by AFP

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#370: Jan 6th 2017 at 10:26:31 PM

Actually Infection sets up a lot of plot points:

Ducky is just a bonus.

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#371: Jan 7th 2017 at 2:20:25 AM

All the arc points in Infection are ultimately irrelevant foreshadowing that is covered so much better in later episodes. Also there is no Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped here, there's just the tired old hamfisted "war is bad" message.

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#372: Jan 8th 2017 at 6:28:42 PM

  • He Who Fights Monsters: Sinclair says this about the Ikarrans:
    Sinclair: You and the rest—you forgot the first rule of the fanatic: when you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy!

And latter The Nightwatch would go down the same path....

edited 8th Jan '17 6:29:23 PM by TairaMai

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#373: Jan 9th 2017 at 7:05:30 AM

[up]Enders Game?

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#374: Jan 9th 2017 at 10:07:57 AM

"In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it's impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them."
Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game

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#375: Jan 10th 2017 at 2:55:51 AM

Weaponised Foe Yay. Our hero, ladies and gentlemen!

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