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DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#1651: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:02:05 AM

I loved the finale. I definitely cried a couple of times while watching.

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Pyrarson Everybody's dead, Dave. from NaN Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#1653: Jun 8th 2015 at 5:58:05 AM

That was a very satisfying finale. And perhaps we might get another season. Maybe. It looks open-ended enough.

I also wanted to say that I loved the wedding episode. Garrett is my favourite character. His way of talking and over-the-top screaming always gets me giggling and laughing. Total Ensemble Dark Horse.

edited 8th Jun '15 8:51:58 AM by XFllo

CLCN Since: Dec, 2013
#1654: Jul 29th 2015 at 11:15:41 AM

I realize that I'm a little late to the game, but I just started watching Community last year and watched season 6 yesterday so I'm sure no one's going to see this but I must say something. I don't think it's weird that Abed has such a vast knowledge of old school pop culture references. Why do people think it's strange? This is TV Tropes. I'm sure most tropers weren't around in the 1930s but there are articles about movies from that time period. Abed is just a movie/TV fanatic, just like most of us. It's perfectly normal for a millennial to have an encyclopedic knowledge of Who's the Boss?. I love Abed as a character because I feel like it better represents me than any other characters I've ever seen. I am as close to Abed as a real person can get. If liking old things make a person weird, then so be it.

edited 29th Jul '15 11:16:14 AM by CLCN

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#1655: Jul 29th 2015 at 11:35:15 AM

I think Abed's issue is that they can never really decide how hard they want to lean into the whole shitty "Autistic people are weird and make neurotypical people uncomfortable!" angle.

Sometimes they do him justice, and have him actually mock those stereotypes, but other times... eh.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1656: Jul 29th 2015 at 11:53:46 AM

Abed and Sheldon Cooper specifically don't have diagnoses because they want liberty to do whatever makes sense for what they're writing.

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HisInfernalMajesty Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#1657: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:47:16 PM

I will say Season 6 - while still good - got really heavy on the meta at some points.

Speaking as an amateur filmmaker myself, my favorite Abed moments are when he's passionate about the stuff he does - even when its lame or stupid or childish. I identify the most with him and Jeff, and it's a large reason that Community is by far my favorite show of all time. Having started college last year when I started watching it, it's a show that really hits home - and I can see bits of myself in all of the characters.

I don't even really get the hate for Season 4, and I think Season 6 does suffer a bit from being too off the rails at times to be funny or feelsy. Still, I'm holding out for a seventh season and a movie.

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DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#1658: Jul 29th 2015 at 10:44:39 PM

Yeah, Season 6 did sometimes get too meta for me. Which is weird, because I love meta humor (if I didn't, I probably wouldn't be watching Community!), but I think Season 6 used it a bit too much.

That hysterically meta commercial at the end of the last episode had me rolling on the floor, though.

I don't actually get the hate towards Season 4, too...

edited 29th Jul '15 10:45:27 PM by DeathsApprentice

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1659: Jul 29th 2015 at 10:55:01 PM

I feel that the fourth season copied season three's wacky antics without understanding the beating heart underneath. The fifth season felt like as close to the second season's tone as they could do after season three and four, and then season six got more experimental again.

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DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#1660: Jul 29th 2015 at 11:20:15 PM

[up] Hmmm, yeah, I see that. I guess Season 4 did kind of lack the heart of the first three seasons.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1661: Jun 15th 2017 at 7:22:47 AM

Giant necrobump. After hearing about this show for seven years, I finally watched it. Shotgunned the whole series in a little over a week. Hard to summarize my thoughts, but:

Season 4 wasn't as bad as everyone said it would be. Still the worst of the series, but not horrible. Probably because I watched it as fast as possible.

Series finale was too meta for me. It wasn't bad, but openly workshopping stupid season 7 ideas was too on the nose. Not to mention that every idea was terrible. Intentionally, sure, but they said annoying things about the characters and how they see each other.

Liked the subversion of Britta/Jeff. They were obviously supposed to be the Official Couple, but when that didn't look like it was working, they didn't try to force it. In fact, they had plenty of jokes about trying to force it. Very nice way of doing it.

Very fond of Annie/Jeff, especially the ending. They acknowledged their feelings but realized that Annie is too inexperienced and Jeff too trapped in self-denial to be in a real relationship. Trying to be together as they were at that point would have just made them super codependent. Kinda wish Annie had been Alison Brie's age, though. The age gap would have been much smaller and less creepy.

Speaking of Jeff, I didn't like the direction they took him in the final two seasons. Failed lawyer (more than before), apathetic teacher, and implied alcoholic. I really liked in the beginning of season 5 when Annie semi-accidentally turned him into a real teacher, but every other time we see him he's not even bothering to pretend to try. It's not like he has tenure; not even the Dean could protect him forever. I know part of the joke is that he never learns anything, but it feels like he has the least character development by the end, by a wide margin. Yeah he's nicer, but he's still self-centered and living in the past. I would have at least liked an ending montage with him shaving off that beard. Important Haircut and all that.

Anyway, wonderful series, even if the last three seasons had problems. Very happy I finally watched it.

Any word on that movie?

edited 15th Jun '17 7:23:19 AM by Discar

moberemk Dread Lord from Canada Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#1662: Jun 15th 2017 at 7:28:15 AM

Re: Jeff as a terrible teacher, something to keep in mind is that Greendale also offers a class on ladders. By the school's standards his class is possibly the closest thing to a real course the school has?

edited 15th Jun '17 7:28:36 AM by moberemk

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1663: Jun 15th 2017 at 8:13:19 AM

I felt like season 4 was a pastiche of season 3. Season 3 was very far into cartoonishness, but at least it understood the heart underneath the cartoon.

For a long time season 3 was my favorite, but then I started to miss how grounded the first two seasons were.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1664: Jun 15th 2017 at 2:02:49 PM

[up][up] Yeah, I know, but at first it looked like Jeff was becoming an actual good teacher, not just a good teacher by Greendale standards. I'm willing to believe he was just having a few bad days (the Dean seemed surprised when the convict ratted on Jeff not actually teaching anything), but I would have liked to see more good days.

[up] I think season 2 was my favorite. Of course the thing I remember most about that season was that it was stuffed to the gills with Jeff/Annie Ship Tease, only for it to be revealed that it had gone completely over Jeff's head because he was sleeping with Britta the entire time. I'm a Jeff/Annie shipper, but that kind of shameless trolling deserves some applause.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1665: Jun 15th 2017 at 2:34:20 PM

According to the commentaries, Jeff sleeping with Britta for the entire first half of the season was a thing none of the writers knew until they threw it into the episode it was revealed in.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1666: Jun 15th 2017 at 4:14:59 PM

Are you sure about that? Because there was quite a bit of Foreshadowing. When they were drunk they immediately started making out when they thought they were alone (they forgot Abed was sitting right there), Britta apparently gossiped to Troy and Abed about some annoying things Jeff does during sex (which implies that they've had sex more than once, as it's pretty hard for things to get annoying after just one time), and Britta says that Jeff "usually" wears a specific pattern of underwear (again implying she's seen him naked on a regular basis; note that Abed reacted to this one), and probably more that I'm forgetting.

Unless this is one of the extremely rare accidental foreshadowing examples, where you look back and realize you've written the perfect lead-up to a conclusion you were completely unaware of, someone knew what they were doing. Or did you mean none of the writers except Dan Harmon knew?

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1667: Jun 15th 2017 at 5:15:03 PM

I'm thinking of how they decided after the fact that the girl with the dumb name Jeff was supposedly texting in the bottle episode was code for Britta, and her giving him grief about it was cover.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1668: Jun 15th 2017 at 9:17:45 PM

I didn't know about that. They were having sex since at least episode 6 (the Halloween episode), and the bottle episode was episode 8, so... I dunno where I'm going with this. Maybe they decided after the bottle episode that they had been having sex the entire season, but they still had plenty of time to lay down foreshadowing. The drunken make out scene was in episode 10, so maybe that was when the decision was made.

Pyrarson Everybody's dead, Dave. from NaN Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1670: Jun 17th 2017 at 7:17:36 PM

So is there any word on that movie? I know the cast and crew were still interested in the idea when the finale aired, but most of them have moved on to other things by now.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1671: Jun 18th 2017 at 1:10:25 PM

Everyone's interested, nobody's hiring them for it. I'm sure that if they were asked, they'd make every effort to make the scheduling work.

edited 18th Jun '17 1:11:19 PM by TParadox

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Sabertooth1000000000 Sabertooth from Land of the Livid Dead Since: Jul, 2010
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#1672: Jun 21st 2017 at 3:08:50 PM

The movie will be made, but it will be a prequel focusing on Chang's journey to Greendale and his tumultuous marriage.

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#1673: Apr 20th 2020 at 3:00:18 PM

Rewatching this on Netflix cause I don't have much better to do during quarantine. Reminds me of how much I love this show. I did share a Hulu account, but it's easier to watch on Netflix. In some good news there's been a lot of renewed interest in it since coming to Netflix and Joe Russo thinks we might get our #andamovie! 'Course take that with a grain of salt since it's not a confirmation, just speculation.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#1674: Apr 21st 2020 at 6:16:32 AM

I recall looking into it on Hulu but it was only English audio and English subs, and I wanted to show it to my wife who's more comfortable in Spanish.

Now on Netflix they have a huge raft of translations and we're burning through the first season.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1675: Apr 21st 2020 at 6:37:44 AM

How quickly did she realize that Senior Chang doesn't know Spanish?

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