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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#12976: Sep 22nd 2015 at 10:25:44 AM

Nah, the Russians are there to protect their assets just like Assad was supposed to do.

That the Russians are now there in force is a sign that he's failed and I have to imagine the Kremlin is very unhappy with him.

Oh really when?
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#12977: Sep 22nd 2015 at 12:42:43 PM

Air Vectors: The Vickers Wellington, Warwick, & Viking — However, there was no mention of the AEW Wellington.

edited 22nd Sep '15 1:03:26 PM by Greenmantle

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#12978: Sep 22nd 2015 at 9:47:27 PM

Very neat find. I almost thought for a second it was a link to RC craft.

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#12979: Sep 26th 2015 at 4:29:23 AM

[up] That Wellington was probably the first AEW aircraft.

Two Photos.

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#12981: Sep 26th 2015 at 10:30:36 AM

Yep. According to here, an AEW Wellington (the same aircraft as in the photo above) was trialled back in 1942:

However, there was also a Wellington equipped with a specifically designed radar for controlling interceptions. This was known as ACI (Air Controlled Interception) as opposed to GCI (Ground Controlled Interception) which was the name for the ground radar stations which guided night fighters. This Wellington, R1629, was equipped with a rotating dorsal aerial array, the purpose being to try and counter the threat from Fw 200 Condors in the NW Approaches. TRE designed the radar with the design, manufacture and installation of the aerial blade with mouting and turning gear the responsibility of RAE Farnborough. Trials were carried out off The Lizard in April 1942.

A change of role came the following month, with plans to use the aircraft to control interceptions of E-boats by MG Bs or aircraft. Trials were carried out from Bircham Newton. With the introduction of 10 cm ASV from January 1942, the project was considered obsolete and was dropped. A full account appeared in the Air-Britain magazine, Aviation World, in Spring 2004 and in 'Air controlled interception' by R Hodges in Radar Development to 1945 edited by R W Burns.

edited 26th Sep '15 10:31:27 AM by Greenmantle

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#12983: Sep 27th 2015 at 1:34:32 PM

Everyone Who Wanted More F-22s Is Being Proven Right.

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#12984: Sep 27th 2015 at 1:38:35 PM

[up] Only for the US, though. If you're not? Tough.

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#12985: Sep 29th 2015 at 3:28:28 AM

Boeing doubles F-15C missile load in '2040C' Eagle upgrade

Boeing has unveiled an up-gunned version of its supersonic F-15C air superiority jet designed to keep the aging fleet operationally relevant through 2040.

Called 2040C, the upgrade package includes “quad pack” munitions racks designed to double the aircraft’s air-to-air missile payload to 16 and conformal fuel tanks for extended-range flights.

For communications, Boeing is naturally offering “Talon HATE” – the air force’s programme of record for connecting the F-15 with Lockheed Martin’s F-22 Raptor.

In terms of survivability, Boeing’s package includes Raytheon’s APG-63(v)3 active synthetically scanned array (AESA) radar and a long-range infrared search and track (IRST) sensor for “first sight, first shot, first kill” air-to-air combat.

2040C continues delivery of the Eagle Passive/Active Warning Survivability System (EPAWSS) systems – a programme designed to equip the fourth-generation F-15 with the latest electronic warfare capabilities. A contract announcement for that effort is expected soon.

Boeing vice president of F-15 programs Mike Gibbons says the 2040C concept is an evolution of the Silent Eagle proposed to South Korea, with some low-observable improvements but mostly a focus on the latest air capabilities and lethality.

Gibbons says instead of carrying weapons internally to reduce the Eagle’s radar cross section, the “evolving threat” – Russia and China’s fielding of advanced fighter jets – favours more weapons, according to Boeing.

The Pentagon capped F-22 production at 195, forcing the air force to keep the F-15C in service far longer than planned, and current operating concepts team the two jets for a high-low mix.

Boeing sees a market for more than 200 active-duty and air national guard F-15C upgrades, and the new payloads could be delivered as part of a future service-life-extension programme (SLEP).

Gibbons says some USAF F-15Cs have more than 20,000h of flight time remaining on the airframe, whereas other are in the low teens and would require new wings and vertical tales.

Speaking at a media roundtable 15 September, Air Combat Command commander Gen Hawk Carlisle said the F-15C will require a life-extension programme in the near future and the added capabilities being offered by Boeing will be considered as part of that.

The upgrade would be a “significant bill,” but he says the planning for that needs to start now in the absence of more F-22s. Boeing is also targeting international F-15C operators including Japan, Israel and Saudi Arabia.

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#12986: Sep 29th 2015 at 3:39:45 AM

[up]Is HATE supposed to be an acronym for something? I can't decide whether the name is silly or awesome.

The time a tanker saved an F-4 that was falling apart over the Atlantic.

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#12987: Sep 29th 2015 at 5:28:38 AM

Not all Air Force acronyms make any sense. I don't think anybody knows what PAVE is supposed to be short for.

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#12988: Sep 29th 2015 at 5:31:50 AM

[up][up] I've not seen the full term anywhere; if HATE is an acronym, it's probably Classified Information.

edited 29th Sep '15 5:32:06 AM by Greenmantle

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#12989: Sep 29th 2015 at 6:07:21 AM

PAVE is generally accepted to stand for things like Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment depending on the application, although in the 70s it was the codeword for the unit that developed special avionics kit like that.

A bit of googling suggestes that HATE is something like "High Altitude Tactical Exploitation" or something.

edited 29th Sep '15 6:09:03 AM by Deadbeatloser22

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#12991: Sep 29th 2015 at 3:05:20 PM

The Frogfoot was designed to basically play leapfrog over a theater of operations. Move from one forward air base to the next one as ground forces advance.

This makes it ill-suited for long range deployments. It's a disadvantage its Amerikanski counterpart the A-10 does not have.

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#12993: Sep 29th 2015 at 7:37:06 PM

Even many of our tankers are Air refuelable.

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#12994: Sep 29th 2015 at 8:02:45 PM

Yo dawg, I heard you like aerial refueling...

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#12995: Sep 30th 2015 at 3:39:46 PM

Three links for today:

"The Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft is nearing fleet service with the U.S. Navy (USN).

USN VP-16 is approaching completion of a training syllabus at Naval Air Station Jacksonville, Florida and is expected to reach IOC (initial operational capability) in Feb. of 2013."

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#12996: Sep 30th 2015 at 4:45:01 PM

I have serious doubts the Russians will hit Mach 4 aircraft. Considering the only manned craft to ever hit Mach 4 or higher were not air breathing aircraft. Add in that really high speed craft like the SR-71 and the X-15 had to have special construction considerations at considerable cost to make them able to hit those high velocities. Both had to have specially designed aircraft skins and engines and one of them wasn't an air breathing craft. There were some plans to possibly arm the SR-71 but they were scrapped as impractical and expensive for the design.

The Mig-31 doesn't quite hit Mach 3 but it close in level flight it falls short by about 675 km/h. It can hit it in a dive though.

There is a pretty persistent theme here among aircraft. It isn't that Mach 3+ airspeeds are not achievable is that it takes a lot to do it. Planes start needing unique design considerations especially in the aircrafts skin and how the engines take in air.

edited 30th Sep '15 4:45:15 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#12997: Sep 30th 2015 at 4:46:27 PM

The skin was titanium though, which was a problem for cold war amercia.

It is NOT a problem for Russia.

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#12998: Sep 30th 2015 at 4:49:07 PM

^ Titanium shortages were a myth in the Cold War. The West had ample stores and deposits of the stuff.

Granted some of it wasn't available in production or exploitation til the 1970s but it was never this ubermetal that was impossible to find.

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#12999: Sep 30th 2015 at 4:54:54 PM

Imca: What tom said and add in it is rather expensive to work with titanium. It also wasn't straight up titanium it was an alloy with other features worked into the skin allowing it to expand and contract. We are talking more then just material considerations but other considerations such as shaping and thermal reactions including skins expanding and deforming at velocity as air friction heats it up. The X-15 had to have special design features to account for that as well. Every high supersonic craft built has some of those considerations built into their designs.

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