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Nonlethal, for a given value of "non".
Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.
That defies all fucking sense and logic, lol.
Also, would be the Israelis to make that.
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The Israelis have also developed a missile fired from a tank gun, the LAHAT
. It's similar to two Russian types: the 9M119 Svir and the 9K112 Kobra...
...and look at this: the XM1111.
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Oh lord, I like the look of that Israeli system. Firing from both 105mm and 120mm guns? Noice.
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
I remember posting about that XM 111 a while back. The Sheridan could also fire missiles from the gun IIRC.
Who watches the watchmen?
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Somali militant base of Kismayo attacked by Kenyan forces: Up goes the pressure...and it might be slowly bringing an end to the mess that is Somalia.
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Non lethal tank round?
Missiles fired from tanks?
Man, reality is weird.
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Just goes to show that sometimes reality is a helluva lot cooler than the stuff they make up for games and shit. And that movies will never have the real awesomeness of military tech because a lot of it is just unbelievable.
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Agreed.
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Non-lethal tank rounds...
reality is weird as hell...
I'm baaaaaaack
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I mean, yeah, apparently it is a stun cartridge that can be used for crowd control. Then the article also says that it can be used to suppress snipers...
Speaking of tanks, are there any tanks that are capable of shooting down aircrafts?
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Sure. That's what the AAMG on top is for.
Don't be so surprised by the gun-launched missiles; the Americans had Shillelagh on the Sheridan and the Patton Starship (that's the M60A2 for those unfamiliar with weird American gear), and the Russians had the much more successful Kobra gun-launched antitank missile since the 1970s. LAHAT and the new American rounds are just the newest additions to the game.
As for the Israeli flash-bang round, the article described it as a "cargo shell", which means, most likely, that it's designed to airburst after a specified time and scatter flash munitions—still dangerous, but much less so. The alternative is hardly "nonlethal" by any standards. Then again, however, we are dealing with the Israelis, whose standards of crowd control are a bit different from everyone else's. This was, after all, the country that briefly ruled .22s to be nonlethal ammunition until Palestinian deaths and the Israeli Supreme Court ruled otherwise.
Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.
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Ah, I see. So those were in use for quite a while.
Yeah, Israel is crazy.
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...awesome, is the word you missed from the end. they have a pilot that landed a plane without a wing!
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That country has the most devastating martial art in the world* as its national martial art. I think that word is needless. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
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True.
Israel may as well mean "awesome"
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Countries that go through lots and lots and lots of wars tend to be awesome.
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I see the Awesomeness.
Tank launched missiles are neat. It's basically a soft launch system that's got a tank gun instead of a little puff.
Fight smart, not fair.
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
Deboss: there is no "little puff" from most missiles but a blast of high temprarture air. If your using a recoiless system there is usually back blast. Soft launch is to help mitigate back blast. You still get some blast pressure from the weapon firing off.
A tank gun has no problems handing things like the rocket motor blast or in most cases using a charge to just blast the missile right out of the tube.
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The gun usually has no trouble absorbing the blast; the missile itself does. Even with solid-state electronics, missiles are usually launched with a reduced charge so the sudden acceleration doesn't break the guidance package. Since they come with rocket motors, they usually don't need the full weight of the propellant.
Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.
rollin' on dubs
Their is a new ranger medic handbook out.
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Oh most definitely.
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
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Oh my, they are just like (streotypical image of) policemen.
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That would be one hell of a nasty fucking flash bang.
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