Scott Pilgrim vs. the World

Oh no, don't get me wrong - I felt the Vegan fight was one of the high points. After that, but before the Gideon fight, is when it fell flat I feel. Matthew Patel's fight was memorable due to how incredibly hammy the guy was, Ex Number 2 was brilliant because he was just so shamelessly arrogant, the Vegan fight was inventive.

4 relied way too much on the "hurf lesbian" thing for my tastes, with 5/6 just being so bland. Like I said though this may have been due to the source material rather than Edgar Wright's ability to pace a film.

Roxie was much more interesting in the comics. The Katayanagis were...still pretty bland, but at least they talked.

^The worst part about the Katayanagis being silent is that the only reason why they didn't talk was because the actors couldn't speak English. Um, what about letting them speak their native Japanese, and providing English subtitles on the bottom? I can think of at least five ways on how the movie could've played around with the subtitles, Austin Powers style.

@Big Daddy P: That would be true, except Lucas is the second Evil Ex. By that point, not only did Scott know that he had 7 Evil Exes to defeat, but he had also already beaten up Matthew Patel.

I thought the weakness of Roxie's role in the story, which was definitely glaring, was balanced out by the awesomeness of the fight itself. That was my favorite action sequence in the film.

I haven't seen the movie— does the fight with ex #3 (the Vegan dude) end the same way in the movie that it does in the comic? Because that insane anticlimax was one of my favorite scenes in the book.

Actually, the Vegan fight is one of the bits I thought was much funnier in the movie than in the comics. But YMMV.

Edit: Oh, and as to your actual question - yeah, it ends the same way, but with a different, and in my opinion funnier, lead-up.

edited 14th Sep '10 1:53:03 PM by LullTheConqueror

^The policemen are played by cameos (Which I will link later... possibly. If I'm not bored.)

@Lizard Bite: The actual ending is the same, but the way it's made less anticlimactic due to the events proceeding it being different. A similar thing is done with the Lucas Lee fight.

...is anyone actually going to say how it's different, or are we just keep getting told it is different?

^(Major Comic spoilers ahead) Mainly the last battle was longer, and also involved a "I Know You Are in There Somewhere" Fight plot where Gideon had gone into Ramona's mind and trapped her there as his slave years ago. After Scott delivered an asskicking, Gideon was then booted out by every aspect of Ramona's personality.

Pissed, Gideon strips off Envy's dress, and pulls a sword from it (Instead of just generating it like in the movie) with the phrase 'YES I HID A SWORD IN MY GIRLFRIEND'S DRESS!!! THAT'S THE KIND OF MAN I AM!!!. Then they fight, Gideon steals the Power of Love (WHAT A DICK), and Ramona responds by making him cut her bag. It explodes, then Scott gains the Power of Understanding (In the film it was Self-Respect) before they both proceed to kick Gideon's ass.

Oh and also apparantly Gideon has six exes of his own, although they're not evil, and are supplying him with power against their will. Probably.

-does the victory/peace sign-

edited 15th Sep '10 1:53:27 AM by BigDaddyP

The Todd Ingram fight is different thus:

Scott gets his ass kicked in the bass duel because there's not The Boys!! And Crash! to save him. As a last gesture, he offers Todd a choice of two coffees - one with half-and-half and one with soy milk. Todd uses his psychic vegan powers to see which one Scott put half-and-half in and takes the other one...only to find that Scott tricked him by "thinking really hard" about putting cream in the one that actually had soy, and vice versa. The Vegan Police instantly show up to de-power Todd.

Anyway, I watched it the third time today (aaaaall by myself, boohoohoo) and I noticed some weird things I hadn't entirely caught the first two times:

• The little visual cues in the opening crtedits. Yes, I am totally lame for not noticing before, but here's what I remember: Alison Pill: the words "one two three four!" flashing in order, followed by the Sex Bob-Omb's logo, Jason Schwartzman: the triangle made of three G's and some glasses, Mae Whitman: a broken heart and four X's, and Ellen Wong: some knives.
• Scott throws his bass to Neil when (I think) leaving with Ramona to go on their totally-not-a-date. And you should know this already, but later in the movie, Young Neil takes over as Sex Bob-Omb's bassist.
• The music played when Scott, along with Knives, sees Ramona in the library is the "Garbage Truck" song without vocals.
• Stacy's line about Scott having "so many friends" could be interpreted in two ways: One, as a reference to the Loads and Loads of Characters and Two, as a reference to Scott being a total player.
• When Scott and Ramona are about to walk up the stairs to the castle, you can see two signs with X's on them next to the stairs.
• Before talking to Ramona at the party, Scott crushes a cup. During the second fight, Lucas Lee crushes a cup of coffee. And in the third fight...uh, someone crushes a cup of something. I think it's coffee.
• Scott and Todd both wear black shirts with skulls on them in the movie, but Todd's looks distinctly more menacing.
• Todd and Lucas both rip/break something by throwing Scott through it, and then walk through the barrier, ripping/breaking it more. With Lucas, it's a...scenery-backdrop-thing or whatever and with Todd it's a brick wall.
• Ramona breaking up with Scott plays out in a way that mirrors Scott's breakup with Knives, with the latter parties both telling the former parties that they're in lesbians love with them, followed by the former party informing the latter that they have to break up.
• The song played during Scott's fight in the Chaos Theater is the "We Are Sex Bob-Omb" song at the beginning, again sans vocals.
• Okay, this is just me, but did anyone else think that when Gideon was talking to Scott on the phone, that it was suspiciously similar to Envy calling Scott?

Also, this movie has firmly solidified my PSL for Stephen Stills.

edited 19th Sep '10 1:46:31 PM by ZetsUboa

I love this film. Just wanted to say that.

...actually,no,I'll say some more. The sound design was geekasmic. The 8-bit rendition of the movie theme at the start. The way Zelda sounds punctuated Scott's actions because someone was playing it in the background.

But the bit that made me die laughing was when Lucas Lee stepped out of his trailer to the Miramax theme.

I want my life to sound like that.

May have to give the comics another chance.

^Universal theme, my friend, Universal theme.

Speaking of themes, the trailer had some of the best music ever.

If anyone wants to know what the final song was, Invaders Must Die by The Prodigy.

Saw this movie. Gonna track down the comic books.

I'm reading the comics now, I've finished the first two volumes, and I've gotta say, especially regarding the first book, a lot of the scenes are taken DIRECTLY from it.

I don't mean just dialogue, there's that, obviously, but the shots in this movie are near-perfect representations of the comic. They're framed almost panel-for-panel. Either Bryan Lee O'Malley designed this to become a movie, or, what I believe more, Edgar Wright really took great care in making this an accurate depiction of the comic.

I'm not usually a, "Hey, that actor!" or "That Director!" guy, but it is quickly coming to the point where if I see Simon Pegg and/or Edgar Wright attached to a project, I'm in.

Big Daddy P: Oh and also apparantly Gideon has six exes of his own, although they're not evil, and are supplying him with power against their will. Probably.

Yeah. When Gideon used a mind control chip on Ramona in the movie, I thought that was a Moral Event Horizon crossing, but in the comics, after that reveal...seeing his defeat was pretty damn satisfying.

The reason the Lucas Lee set looks identical is because it was both drawn and filmed at the actual Casa Loma, right?

Seems likely that all the comic scenes were drawn from real places, and the filmmakers actually took the time to track down said places and film there.

^The comic settings absolutely were real places. I've actually been to Casa Loma the one time I went to Canada, and a number of other places in the comic are quite real too, like Honest Ed's and that big library from Volume 2 that got cut from the movie.

And so yes, the filmmakers did film the entire movie in Toronto, at the real places depicted in the comic, which is certainly easy to do: other movies and TV shows use it to double for American cities all the time.

Another good bit in the comic book (I've read every volume) is when Scott thinks Ramona has left him, and Gideon is all Darth Sidious.

"So... I guess that makes you an evil ex. Join the league, Scott, and together we can rule Ramona's life!"

"I'll never join you!"

edited 24th Sep '10 2:52:13 AM by BigDaddyP

So yeah, just in case anyone was interested, the DVD and Blu-ray are up for preorder on Amazon. Go help make this movie the cult classic it rightly deserves to be!

That was fast.

I don't think i've ever clicked a link so fast in my life.

Me too. This movie deserves every penny I can give it.