Ok it was mentioned there is not a thread for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO for short)and other similar jobs for discussion.
This is for discussing the actual jobs, ranks, training, culture, relations to military bodies that exist, and any other variety of topics that can arise pertaining to the World of Policing.
Damn. Well good thing they caught them.
Who watches the watchmen?FBI agent involved in the shooting during the Bundy standoff has been indicted for lying about discharging his weapon to the FBI's incident response team.
Between this and the Bundy family's acquittal I see them parading this as a win for themselves. Articles mentions that a civil suit by the Bundy's and the family of the man killed will likely follow.
Why do I suspect a very careful level of not asking?
Euo: Now why would you ever suspect corporate hired goons of not being on the up and up? Not like there is an extensive history of such a thing with a now defunct agency with the word Pink in it or anything.
edited 2nd Jul '17 12:13:03 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?Because surely lessons have been learned, right? Right? <lollipop-rainbow-gumdrops-Skittles>
Euo: Lol,
Who watches the watchmen?While Pinkerton still exists, it's now (amusingly) part of the Swedish private security company Securitas AB. Restrictions and standards went up significantly.
edited 2nd Jul '17 12:30:38 PM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleI was amused to find out that the security guard I'd chat with during lunch at my local community college was a Pinkerton agent. Nice lady.
Terminus: What they aren't anymore are the heavy hitter corporate thugs they used to be. That dubious honor is more G4S wheelhouse these days. They are a relatively small part of Securitas these days.
Who watches the watchmen?
G4S has also bloated in the PMC area, they bought ArmorGroup a few years back. I think they have some 20,000 contractors in that market.
edited 4th Jul '17 4:15:19 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleI noticed that. I refuse to work for them. They have the Google center and now the Pay Pal contracts out here.
Who watches the watchmen?Well out of it, mate. They're not good employers. I've heard nothing but grief from those who wound up working for them either through takeovers or making the bad mistake of seeking employment with them after being discharged.
They gouge everybody. <_<
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/07/06/1716933/central-luzon-police-chief-wants-ids-muslims
So Regional police director Chief Supt. Aaron Aquino announced this measure during a meeting with local Muslim community leaders.
Federal Appeals Court Rules that There is a First Amendment Right to Record the Police
Today’s ruling stems from the arrest of Rick Fields in 2013 while he recorded Philadelphia police breaking up a party and the detention of Amanda Geraci, who was detained by city police while observing and photographing an anti-fracking protest outside the Pennsylvania Convention Center in 2012.
“Government operates best in sunlight, and the police are not an exception,” said Reggie Shuford, executive director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania, which represented Fields and Geraci with cooperating counsel. “The First Amendment right to document the police at work is critical to promote transparency. We are grateful that the appeals court agrees.”
Something from my local area from just last month. Omaha PD is firing two officers involved in excessive use of force case that resulted in a death. Autopsy seems to indicate none of the excessive blows lead to the man's death but there is still a question where the excessive taser use may have. They succeeded in getting by the local police union to fire the two officers for overtly violating both procedure and restrictions on use of force.
The victim was a one Mr Bearheel who was both bipolar and schizophrenic without adequate care and medication.
edited 7th Jul '17 8:14:24 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?
Instapundit Glenn Reynolds on Why it's Important to Film the Police
The Instapundit, Glenn Reynolds, daylights as a law professor at University of Tennessee and in his latest column for the Washington Examiner, he calls attention to the importance of watching the watchers with newfangled recording devices
After the tape was played, the jury took less than an hour to return a verdict of not guilty. "When we heard that, everyone (on the jury) just shook their head," said one juror interviewed afterward. "If what those two investigators were doing wasn't criminal, we felt it bordered on criminal, and she had the right to record it.”...
In Massachusetts, meanwhile, the right of citizens to record the police has been upheld by the United States Court of Appeals For The First Circuit in the case of Glik v. Cunniffe. Passerby Simon Glik caught sight of three police officers arresting a young man. Hearing an onlooker shout that the officers were hurting the man, Glik turned on his cellphone and began capturing video. The police officers objected to being recorded, arresting Glik and charging him with violating the state's “wiretap” law by recording them without their consent, seizing his camera and memory chip as evidence....
Technology may be winning, but the real problem is that America has a class of government workers who believe that they are above citizen scrutiny, and who are prepared to abuse their powers to avoid that scrutiny. The only solution for this is to punish offenders severely enough that others learn their lesson.
Some have proposed a federal civil rights law specifically recognizing the right of citizens to record police, and including severe punishments for police and prosecutors who violate that right. Frankly, it seems like a pretty good idea. Until then, however, we need to educate both police and citizens that photography is not a crime, even when those who wield government power, ostensibly on behalf of the citizenry, would rather not be photographed.
edited 7th Jul '17 11:00:19 PM by TairaMai
All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48https://ph.news.yahoo.com/frenchman-arrested-belgians-charged-over-terror-192554541.html
Arrests were made in a French-Belgian op. One of those arrested was a member of the Kamikaze Riders.
https://www.npa.go.jp/english/kokusai/Responding_to_the_Surge_of_Foreign_Visitors_to_Japan.pdf
White paper of the NPA in dealing with foreigners in case they don't know Japanese in relation to the 2020 Olympics.
Well, have my first (sort of) prosecution tomorrow...I only have to get a violent misdemeanantnote off the streets. Starting small. Not worried in the slightest.
And I still need to get a badge before I can get those "eat free" deals that uniformed police law enforcement have at so many places...
Thank you
edited 12th Jul '17 7:23:57 PM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesCentury: Good luck.
Who watches the watchmen?Good luck Century. Your heart seems to be in the right place, I'm sure you'll do great.
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Quick question for those in the know. I was talking about the police themed writing and novel I am writing, police themed art and custom work I do, modding cars and vinyls in Forza or proper looking Leliana or Lara Croft faced original works in WWE 2K17, proper logos and everything. Apparently so I'm told police don't like being portrayed in media full stop.
What? I can understand confusion with Grand Theft Auto V and not understanding it is supposed to be positive but even something that is clearly meant to be positive police fear they are being targeted.
Is this true? If so then that leads to another question. Some police demand respect but act in a disrespectful manner. So when a work is made that is intended to be respectful they get upset. Why is that?
edited 12th Jul '17 9:17:21 PM by tsstevens
Currently reading up My Rule Fu Is Stronger than YoursPolice are about as diverse as any other large population in the US (there are over a million police officers in the US, working for a huge number of different agencies). Some departments are more supporting/active regarding media portrayals than others (for example, Detective Joe Friday has his own official LAPD badge). Some departments are pretty picky about their public image, however, and will try to prevent unauthorized representations of them (think of it similarly to a trademark or a copyright)
edited 13th Jul '17 4:59:35 AM by AFP
Singapore police arrested two AETOS auxiliary police officers for ISIL sympathies while on duty.