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Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#52: Jan 16th 2011 at 8:11:09 AM

[up] Ok, now you're not even trying. :/

hassanico Since: Dec, 1969
#53: Jan 16th 2011 at 8:23:33 AM

Could Vanitas or Master Xehanort count? I'd like to cite their evil deeds but can't remember them all...

edited 16th Jan '11 8:23:50 AM by hassanico

miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
Knouge forever!!
#54: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:22:14 AM

How did Sonic, Crash, and Spyro become less beloved?

I am completely, utterly, and thoroughly done with Sola Sonica and 2D
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#55: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:38:17 AM

Naughty Dog stopped making Crash.
Insomniac stopped making Spyro.
Sonic Team... just Sonic Team.

NONAMEGIVEN from Nowhere Since: Jul, 2013
#56: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:39:10 AM

Mario, obviously. How many poor goombas and turtles died at his hands while they were just doing his jobs??? and thats just the beggining.

"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death itself may die."
hassanico Since: Dec, 1969
#57: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:15:57 AM

[up]Yeah, just look at the "What the hell Hero!" moment he gets in Super Mario Bros. Z. I mean, Mario roasts turtles in lava! That's just ...cruel!

edited 16th Jan '11 10:16:44 AM by hassanico

Vox Since: Dec, 2010
#58: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:43:22 AM

@Hassanico: Those guys ain't protagonists.

hassanico Since: Dec, 1969
#59: Jan 16th 2011 at 12:04:29 PM

.....D'oh!

Well, um...Let's see...uh....I got nothing.

Getting to play as Sauron and wiping out everyone in Middle-Earth was nice in LOTR Conquest... Oh, and the Witch-King did lots of horrible stuff in Rise of the Witch-King...

edited 16th Jan '11 12:04:47 PM by hassanico

miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
Knouge forever!!
#60: Jan 16th 2011 at 3:24:50 PM

Once again, Ty. He not only killed millions of innocents just for doing their job, he also murdered one of the most beloved video game characters of all time in cold blood before his fanbase (and most likely supporting characters') eyes just to show off. In fact, I am going to add him to the page!

edited 5th Feb '11 2:33:34 PM by Madrugada

I am completely, utterly, and thoroughly done with Sola Sonica and 2D
Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Tofunator Harbinger of Something from Dark Space Since: Jun, 2011
Harbinger of Something
#62: Jan 16th 2011 at 3:47:31 PM

Dammit, miru, just... Don't. That wasn't even in the context of the actual game.

edited 5th Feb '11 2:33:19 PM by Madrugada

I don't have too much to say.
miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
Knouge forever!!
#63: Jan 16th 2011 at 3:50:37 PM

How is that not the point of the game?

I am completely, utterly, and thoroughly done with Sola Sonica and 2D
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#64: Jan 16th 2011 at 4:18:00 PM

Probably because it never really happened and was never referenced again? The game itself isn't about killing beloved mascots anyways.

It's just a silly Take That! to show off that Ty's devs were intending to make Ty another household name mascot (I assume). It's not really meant to be taken seriously.

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#65: Jan 16th 2011 at 4:31:06 PM

Saints Row 2. He crosses the Moral Event Horizon a few times.

Jonah Falcon
miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
Knouge forever!!
#66: Jan 27th 2011 at 5:02:16 PM


This post was thumped by the Merciless Hammer of Doom

I am completely, utterly, and thoroughly done with Sola Sonica and 2D
ColorPrinter Since: Dec, 2011
#67: Jan 27th 2011 at 5:09:37 PM


Wow. That was rude. Thumped.

Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#69: Jan 27th 2011 at 5:22:43 PM

If you take the evil options in most games with a Karma Meter, you'll become this.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Altoid Poyo! from Skaro Since: Jan, 2011
Poyo!
#70: Feb 1st 2011 at 4:16:40 AM

Roxas is a Nobody, people. He can't empathize, can't feel emotion, and is basically a soulless corpse. Normally this would be OK, if you ignore the fact that he has a giant key that can basically pwn'd everything.

New RP!
Legionnaire The Leading Man from Australia Since: Oct, 2010
The Leading Man
#71: Feb 1st 2011 at 4:25:18 AM

Alright, so, let's take this emotionless (arguable) kid and see what he does in his life:

He...kills Heartless with his giant key (something The Messiah does every day).

He...hangs out with his friends (I'm sure they're plotting world domination).

He...eats ice-cream (no doubt it has a poison in it that he'll use to take over the universe and is slowly building an immunity.

He...leaves the Organisation that manipulated and used him his entire life (they probably got in the way of his plans).

He...fights and kills his best friend after she attacked him to force him to absorb her and prevent Xemnas from getting a keyblade master under his control (I'm sure it was because Xion was intending to murder him).

He...gets royally pissed off and tries to go ape on the Organisation that ruined the small amount of life he had (no doubt they had become too large a threat to his plans to end the universe and needed to eliminate them).

He...fails, because Riku stops him (obviously he realised Roxas' cuning plan and stopped him).

Then he...spends the rest of his days in a computer simulation trying to make sense of the bizarre events happening around him, slowly regaining his (and Sora's) memories and generally having a good time with his (fake) friends.

Yeah. That Roxas. He's a real bastard alright.

Against all tyrants.
Noelemahc Noodle Implements FTW! from Moscow, Russia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
#73: Feb 1st 2011 at 5:41:32 AM

Wouldn't it be more fun to list the protagonists that aren't subject to Karma-meterdom? Most of the properly-fitting ones noted above come from games where the player has to intentionally MAKE the protagonist one of these.

On that note, could The White Chamber qualify? I think all that bloodshed might make one fit the trope, AND it's all in the past too.

edited 1st Feb '11 5:42:28 AM by Noelemahc

Videogames do not make you a worse person... Than you already are.
Nyarly Das kann doch nicht sein! from Saksa Since: Feb, 2012
Das kann doch nicht sein!
#74: Feb 1st 2011 at 5:53:01 AM

The objective of The White Chamber is redemption for the murders. The main character (I forgot her name) may start as Complete Monster, but she surely isn't irredemably.

edited 1st Feb '11 5:53:14 AM by Nyarly

People aren't as awful as the internet makes them out to be.
stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#75: Feb 1st 2011 at 6:02:10 AM

Grand Theft Auto 1 and 2 although depending how one plays them it might be more along the lines of Omnicidal Maniac

edited 1st Feb '11 6:02:20 AM by stevebat

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.

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