I don't think the collage adds anything. It also doesn't help that the other examples are more subtle.
IMO, the other examples being more subtle is the point, given the trope's about alien races that happen to look almost exactly like humans. I also think it helps to have image examples that don't literally have rubber foreheads.
Edited by dvx105 on Feb 18th 2023 at 11:06:55 AM
Not a fan of this having a collage either.
I like collages, but to this one. Keep current
The others don't look alien enough. Keep current.
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.Had some fun making this, these pics are of Star Trek veteran Jeffrey Combs, playing (in clockwise order starting from the left) Weyoun, Shran, Tiron and Penk.
Edit: I didn't notice Weyoun's... earpiece?... looked so small at that angle and scale, so here's a different shot.
Edited by Earnest on Feb 19th 2023 at 9:31:25 AM
I still don't think a collage adds anything to the image.
I don't mind a collage if it's paired with a good caption.
I'd like to apologize for all this.I think collages should be reserved to tropes where variety is the point.
This is not it. It's just "aliens look like humans, except with a deformation or two". That can be done in a pic.
Edited by Drope on Feb 19th 2023 at 1:25:36 AM
Collages are best when A) showing variety of usages and B) showing a variety of usages across media. These suggestions fail both, and their smaller scale makes the differences ironically less obvious.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAgree that this particular trope doesn't need a collage.
I wonder if, instead of a multiple-species collage, an image showing multiple members of an RFA species would better show that it's a species design trope, but probably not necessary. Agree that the current gets it across efficiently and the collages are marginal improvements at best.
I understand the intention of the collage, since some people might think the trope is solely about that kind of make-up
oh hey how are you doing?If I had actual artistic talent, I'd draw a comic of a human disguising themselves as an alien by dunking their forehead in oatmeal. Maybe there's a parody like that out there?
That got me thinking of the design change of Klingons. This trope is sometimes exploited in Star Trek: Enterprise and Star Trek: The Next Generation for cultural observation and infiltration. There were a few of Riker going undercover in a planet, and Troi being modified to look like a Roman, but I liked the Hoshi one better since it's actually shown happening. If anyone wants to give it a look, the episodes are "First Contact" and "Schisms" (iirc).
16.1 This one is of Hoshi.
16.2 The Klingon scientist Antaak losing his forehead ridges to a virus.
16.3 And one of the transition from eyebrows in Star Trek: The Original Series to RFA Klingons in TNG / DS9, this is Kang.
Edited by Earnest on Feb 20th 2023 at 9:55:44 AM
Here, more than one race in a shot (1 romulan and 2 klingons). You can tell they're aliens because of the Zeerust clothes.
Don't know the specific Star Trek source though.
Edited by Drope on Feb 20th 2023 at 10:41:26 AM
This can work
Just to throw in the idea of a multi-franchise collage:
17
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.Again, I do not see why a collage is necessary. I'm sure any of those works there could provide multiple rubber forehead races in a single pic.
As a guy that often works with image sourcing, collages are always a pain to deal with, so they somewhat scare me.
Edited by Drope on Feb 20th 2023 at 5:35:46 AM
Somebody up-thread wanted to see one, I suggested one. What.
As far as sourcing, I think 17 is from Star Trek: The Next Generation: there was an episode in season 6 or 7 where some Romulans running a prison camp for Klingons taken captive in the conquest of Khitomer had started families with some of the prisoners (forget the title).
Edited by StarSword on Feb 20th 2023 at 8:17:02 AM
That's right, I think it's in Birthright Part 2. You could even caption the episode pic as a contest of who has the bumpiest forehead (Ba'el the half-Romulan, half-Klingon wins)
I don't mind the collages, but I think 17 is the strongest option for having two such aliens in one pic.
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Rubber Forehead Aliens
The current Worf picture is fine, but I think a collage of several examples from Star Trek would be a better representation of the trope (that being the tendency of sci-fi aliens to be extremely similar to humans, often due to budget constraints). Pictured below: a Vulcan, a Romulan, a Bajoran and a Klingon.