Just a Face and a Caption: Villainous Incest

Villainous Incest shows Hansel and Gretel, mentally insane one-arc assassins. But if you don't know the work there's nothing to tell that either or both are evil or antagonists.

One idea is to put it Brother–Sister Incest and change its "no pic ever" to "don't change the pic".

Asked here.

Edited by Amonimus on Dec 7th 2022 at 6:30:54 PM

The gun & Dark Is Evil clothing kinda help, but I do see what you mean.

To be honest, the gun being the same color as the dress made me not see it, but I'll keep my point.

Ehh, weak keep. It's not the clearest, but I've never had a problem with this image. They look evil enough to me.

I vote to keep

Keep for the aforementioned reasons + I'm hesitant to search for other suggestions. Since I can infer the trope well enough from the gun I'm good until someone presents an alternative.

Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 7th 2022 at 10:00:05 AM

Keep

Throwing in Last Exile

This says "villainous" more to me, by how visibly incapacitated Dio looks.

I didn't realize that thing in the current was a gun, I thought it was the bar of a jail cell.

I feel the current is clear enough that they're twins because they look similar imo. Therefore, I'm leaning on keeping it until a better image is suggested; I don't feel it demonstrates the "Villainous" part. I get the sister has a gun, however, carrying a gun isn't exclusive to evil-doers.

EDIT:I don't know.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Dec 10th 2022 at 9:30:13 AM

Thoughts on the suggestion? Does it "demonstrate the Villainous part"?

moving it to Brother–Sister Incest. The gun is practically invisible unless pointed out, but otherwise nothing shows they are villains. They look much like siblings though.

I'm kinda inclined to think the current is a bit dark to be clear on either page, and the suggestion doesn't sufficiently get across that they're related to me. (I do think it's clear that the woman is probably villainous because it kinda looks like it might be nonconsensual.)

I lucked out searching for Andrea & Andreas von Strucker (Fenris) from the X-Men universe. Technically they are ambiguously husband/wife and/or brother/sister, but they wallow in this trope.

J2FAAC.

They look more convincingly evil, but there's no incest to be had.

I think the current can be salvaged if we can just have a picture of them, like, doing something evil. I disagree that they look evil enough already, anyone can just carry a gun and the dark clothes are because they're in a dark room, which also doesn't look inherently evil.

Ok, found a few where they were dialing "that" up. Edit: I'm only tangentially familiar with Black Lagoon, but there oughta be a few of them blood splattered and grinning.

18.1

18.2

18.3

Edited by Earnest on Dec 8th 2022 at 12:22:20 PM

I definitely get “evil twins”, but not really incestuous.

I'm concerned about "Evil Brother–Sister Team" examples, but 18.3 is pretty close.

18.3 is OK, the others are way too texty. Them holding hands is indicative and they at least look villainous enough.

18.2 is a bit texty, but it's also the strongest on the "incest" aspect since they're both wearing very little.

Oh, there are lots of them blood-splattered and grinning, but much fewer of them acting incestuous (mostly through fairly discrete moments like the page image, otherwise it's only described by other characters talking about them^note I think attempting not to fetishise their relationship while still making it clear just how comprehensively child sex trafficking fucked them up), and I only remember one scene that implies both at the same time:

It isn't much better-lit than the current image - the blood (and Shadow Discretion Shot of the mutilated corpse) doesn't show up well at wiki size, in my opinion, and if it did I think people could validly consider it excessive, so I prefer Amonimus' suggestion of just moving the current page image to Brother–Sister Incest. None of the replacements so far seem fantastic, but I'd vote for 8.1 or 18.3.

A Game of Thrones — here's the card in question

Disagree, it's giving the vibes of Lady Macbeth more than that page's actual pic

Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 10th 2022 at 1:09:29 PM

That's weak on the villainous part.