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Occasionally, a wick will appear on a page's "Related to" subpage, but the page in question doesn't actually contain the link listed. In fact, sometimes nonexistent pages will appear to have this nonexistent link. This is called a "ghost wick": it is a ghost haunting pages past. There are a couple of ways these wicks could've surfaced, which are related to administrative/mod deletions and reversions. The details aren't important.

Elimination of a ghost wick depends on where the wick is occuring.

On an existing page:

  • If the page is a redirect, make a null edit. It might force earlier changes to the page to register. Please leave an edit reason so others know what's going on. If that doesn't work...
  • If the page has content but no internal links at all, create one. Wicks only update if there's at least one wick on the page, so adding one will make the ghost wick disappear. If you feel there's nowhere to place an appropriate link, add a link arbitrarily (such as to the page itself), save the edit, and delete it after. Please leave an edit reason so others know what's going on.
  • If the page is ghost-indexing (creating index bars on other pages even though it's not an index), do a null edit to its page type (under Page Info; in the sidebar on desktop, bottom of the page on mobile). If it's a redirect, you'll first have to break the redirect so you can access the page type in the first place. After you're done, restore the redirect.

On a nonexistent page:

Requesting removal of ghost wicks from ghost pages is the purpose of this thread.
  • Post the page where the ghost wick is supposed to exist.
  • Alternatively, if the page is not in the Main namespace, you can recreate the page with "Ghost Wick" and a wick to the page, then add it to the Cut List where a moderator will delete it.note 

    Ghost Wicks Moderation Cannot Fix 

Edited by Twiddler on Jul 8th 2023 at 1:55:52 AM

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#277: Feb 25th 2024 at 3:19:59 PM

Sandbox.Courtroom Antics is creating a ghost wick to WesternAnimation.Battle Tech.

Edited by ClancyGardener on Feb 25th 2024 at 3:20:13 AM

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#278: Feb 26th 2024 at 12:22:33 PM

[up],[up][up] Ghost wicks in namespaces outside of the main namespace can be recreated and cut manually with mod intervention.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#281: Mar 27th 2024 at 2:54:32 PM

Can't figure out the Gundamjack wick.

Done to here otherwise.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#282: Mar 27th 2024 at 4:26:53 PM

[up] - My bet: It's coming from that Tropers page I said, but since Tropers pages don't generate wicks anymore, even editing it doesn't cause the records to refresh. If you wanna cut and restore it, well, it's not my Tropers page.

Edited by Malady on Mar 27th 2024 at 4:27:19 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#283: Apr 1st 2024 at 9:21:06 PM

Or from inaccessible pages like:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/folderizer.php?target=.iceheart

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animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#285: Apr 5th 2024 at 1:12:59 PM

Main.Oldmanofthemountain is creating a ghost wick to Main.Canada Eh.

Edited by animuacid on Apr 5th 2024 at 10:13:40 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#286: Apr 6th 2024 at 12:23:05 AM

Doing...

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#287: Apr 6th 2024 at 7:17:31 PM

On the related to page for G La DOS, it says that there are two non-archive wicks left (Portal 2 Prologue and The Courtesy Call), but both have been removed as their histories show.

Edited by Lymantria on Apr 6th 2024 at 10:19:54 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#288: Apr 6th 2024 at 10:08:46 PM

If you want to remove the wicks, then those pages must have wicks elsewhere. Unless you've put them in the Cut List?

Sleeping now, goodnight.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#289: Apr 7th 2024 at 3:06:37 PM

I’m still not quite sure what to do about [up][up], since those pages don’t seem to be cut-worthy.

Edit: Fixed. The pages had content but no wicks on them, so I followed the instructions in the OP for those cases, and the ghost wicks disappeared. Sorry I didn’t notice that earlier.

Edited by Lymantria on Apr 7th 2024 at 6:11:08 AM

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JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#291: Apr 10th 2024 at 9:40:32 AM

Just needed to edit the page. Seems fixed?

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JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
One-Track Mind (he/him)
#292: Apr 10th 2024 at 9:51:09 AM

[up]Nope, not fixed.

Edited by JHD0919 on Apr 10th 2024 at 12:56:39 PM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#293: Apr 10th 2024 at 9:57:46 AM

Oh, you mean Silly Simian's making a ghost wick to Project X. And that's because I made a redirect.

You didn't do the wick correctly is why. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.SillySimian&page=3

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JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
One-Track Mind (he/him)
#294: Apr 10th 2024 at 10:03:34 AM

[up]OK, thank you for fixing it. It's all good now.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#295: Apr 10th 2024 at 4:56:17 PM

Hound is making a ghost wick to The Creeper.

Edited by costanton11 on Apr 10th 2024 at 6:56:29 AM

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#296: Apr 10th 2024 at 5:32:21 PM

[nvm, it was a redirect, I somehow didn’t think of that before posting]

Edited by Lymantria on Apr 10th 2024 at 8:37:32 AM

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Asterlix Waffle Cat (she/her) from Ooo Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Waffle Cat (she/her)
#297: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:48:24 PM

Laconic.Authority Equals Asskicking is creating a ghost wick to Authority Grants Asskicking, which I'm cleaning up. Please remove.

Here there be cats.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#298: Apr 18th 2024 at 8:58:06 PM

That's not in main. I'm remaking and cutlisting

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ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#299: Apr 20th 2024 at 2:18:41 PM

Trivia.Commando is making a ghost wick to ComicBook.Commando and Film.Commando.

EDIT: Wait, it's not a main namespace — I can fix this myself. Never mind.

EDIT: Never mind that, I can't seem to put it on the Cut List.

Edited by ClancyGardener on Apr 20th 2024 at 2:23:43 AM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#300: Apr 20th 2024 at 4:39:06 PM

What have you tried? You first create a page with any wick, then cutlist it.

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