Wick Check Project

Wait, where does it say it needs to be unintentional? You can do the check, but I'm not sure it's actually misuse?

I mean, some examples could stay if the unfair difficulty is part of the game's charm. But if the supposed "unfair" aspects doesn't actually make a game more difficult than it needs to be, then they should be removed.

That said, a wick check may be needed before any changes are made. I don't want to end up like that other troper who made sweeping changes on a certain trope without giving it a wick check, and the changes they made to address the "misuse" ended up making more instances of misuse. That, and they didn't expand on examples which didn't explain enough on why they are examples.

I'm still a bit confused at what you're saying. Before you said that you wanted to see if the examples were intentional or not. Now it's whether or not they're unfair?

Sorry about the confusion. My statement on Fake Difficulty being about games being difficult unintentionally is based on that trope's Laconic page, and I changed my mind to games being unfairly difficult partway through.

Anyways, I just wanted to do a wick check on Fake Difficulty to see if there really is a problem regarding its usage, and I have no idea where to start. Does anyone else here think that Fake Difficulty is being misused?

Ah, yeah okay. For future references, laconics are unreliable and shouldn't be used in favor of the normal description.

I'm not entirely sure what sort of stuff you could check for, but hopefully someone else can help.

Then why even have laconics to begin with? If the objective is to give viewers a short summary of what the trope is, they failed miserably.

Yep.

Not really the place to discuss the issue, but it's been reiterated dozens (at least) times before elsewhere; laconics often leave out info or misrepresent the tropes in question, which is why people are discouraged from leaning on them exclusively.

If you want to discuss this further, though, it needs to be off of this thread.

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 13th 2024 at 4:13:00 AM

OK, I'll make a mental note of this and drop it for now.

Okay, so I've started to work on a wick check for Fake Difficulty...and I ran into a problem. How do I deal with examples with multiple levels of bullet points?

I usually treat them all as one wick... if I don't just go to a different page and pretend it never happened. ^^'

It messes up the # for me so I personally go for the first wick on the page. I don't think either way is wrong as long as the count isn't skewed.

I just finished the Gender Flip Wick Check and will have an OP writeup soon.

I just finished the Next Thing They Knew Wick Check. Do you agree with the analysis in the draft OP?

I have begun work with the Why We Cant Have Nice Things Wick Check, per this thread where I brought up an issue I believed it had. If anyone wishes to help out, feel free; it's not complete at this moment.

Edited by Eggy0 on Apr 14th 2024 at 4:24:38 PM

I have a couple of wick check ideas in the queue right now. I'm working on one for Amazing Freaking Grace (Amazing Freaking Wick Check, best name ever for a wick check by the way) since I notice that it's often just used for "Amazing Grace is heard" which is Chairs-y.

I also may do one for Unequal Pairing, pending the discussion of a Trope Talk thread I made about it - I find that it's being used both for canon and Fan-Preferred Couple ships, and if use of the latter is prevalent then it might need a split, and the FPC-related trope may go to YMMV (with other fanon shipping tropes).

Wait until you see A Threesome Is Wicked.

But in all seriousness, this is my first wick check and it's been sitting in the TRS Queue for a few weeks. Moreover, it's of two tropes, A Threesome Is Hot and Three-Way Sex, because I wanted to demonstrate Duplicate trope issues. Is there anything I could improve?.

After a while, going to do a new wick check. I stumbled randomly on Animeland the other night and the main page is both very short and filled with ZCE, so I think it needs a look.

Animeland Wick Check

EDIT: Editing my own post because I don't know if posting twice in a row is a bad thing even if more than 24 hours passed since the earlier post, but the wick check is completed. Out of 50 wicks, only 18 are valid, 2 feel like misusing the trope, 2 feel a bit forced and everything else is a ZCE.

Edited by PhantomDusclops92 on Apr 24th 2024 at 10:19:05 AM

I'm at the top of the Queue and wick check's not done, so I could use some help since the next slot is likely to open soon.

Martial Arts Headband Wick Check

Issues like these are why I advocate doing the check before going to the queue...

I'd help but frankly I have no idea what's going on, the page is a mess

I checked all of "Hachimaki" and now checking actually Martial Arts Headband before folderizing them.

The biggest splits look to likely be:

1. Martial Arts Signifier
2. Accessory of personality display.
3. Headbands / Bandanas Exist
4. Zero Context.

That is way more wicks than you need. You only need 50

Yea. I was like, "I started this, might as well finish", but probably should / could cut it off now, even as it's unrandomized, the percentage is high enough that it's functionally representative?

Edited by Malady on Apr 25th 2024 at 11:57:26 AM

I guess? We'll see.

I've never done a wick check, but I stumbled across Improbable Cover, a page which is ancient, starving, and just a worse version of Concealment Equals Cover, and I wanted to try it out. One thing I can't figure out is when selecting which wicks to check, do you use the list of wicks that show up on the "related" page (including or excluding other trope pages?) or do you use the list of wicks on the trope page itself?

Normally it's enough with the off-page wicks in the related tab. But in this case the on-page examples are few and you can check them if you want.