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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#1: Feb 7th 2018 at 9:49:09 AM

I am trying to end a story with Heaven on Earth via The Singularity, a fusion between the several planes of reality in the world that ends up creating a world where, effectively, everyone is happy and sadness dont exist.

My question is, how I can present this in a way that dont feels forced or creepy? I mean, the characters that start that are pretty grey themselves, but the end result is mean to be unambiguously positive.

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#2: Feb 8th 2018 at 11:34:17 AM

I don't know that you can. Human beings aren't built to accept a world in which all suffering is removed and everyone is perfectly happy all the time. It's totally alien to our psychology, and is indeed kind of horrifying. If you want to set it up as a good thing, you'll need to do quite a bit of groundwork.

Examples of works that feature this sort of event can be found in Getting Smilies Painted on Your Soul. Rarely is it portrayed positively in the long run.

Some basic questions that you'd have to answer:

  • What happens to human drive and ambition, which are fueled by the difference between imagination and reality? Are we supposed to believe that they are inherently evil, or simply become unnecessary?
  • Does everyone go willingly to this paradise? What happens to the people who reject it?
  • Is it a real utopia, such that all needs and wants are provided for and everyone is magically prosperous, or a Lotus-Eater Machine or Fluffy Cloud Heaven such that mortality is simply no longer relevant?

There is plenty of science fiction that sets up a singularity wherein all minds merge into a kind of super-consciousness, but they don't necessarily propose or require that this mind no longer be anything but happy, or be incapable of suffering. The problem is how you tell any kind of meaningful story if there is no longer any individuality.

An interesting read if you are into this idea is Alan Dean Foster's Design For Great Day, which starts with the notion that humans (and other sapients) have merged into a collective consciousness that is yet composed of a massive web of individual thought and have determined to spread this enlightenment to the denizens of other galaxies.

You can also see this theme in certain endings of Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Civilization: Beyond Earth, but as I said, they are endings, and so nothing beyond them is explored in any detail.

edited 8th Feb '18 11:44:43 AM by Fighteer

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#3: Feb 8th 2018 at 12:26:56 PM

What happens to human drive and ambition, which are fueled by the difference between imagination and reality? Are we supposed to believe that they are inherently evil, or simply become unnecessary?

Unnecessary

Does everyone go willingly to this paradise? What happens to the people who reject it?

Is impossible to decide individually (albeit it had the support of a majority of the living human population), because is either that or the End of the World as We Know It. The whole plan is to create a way to survive to it, all minds still exist as individuals, but they are certainly connected with each other in a way that is simply beyond the imagination of the normal humans.

Is it a real utopia, such that all needs and wants are provided for and everyone is magically prosperous, or a Lotus-Eater Machine or Fluffy Cloud Heaven such that mortality is simply no longer relevant?

The Fluffy Cloud Heaven mixed with a Lotus-Eater Machine. Death dont exist anymore, the gods of death and afterlife can finally take a rest if they want.

There is plenty of science fiction that sets up a singularity wherein all minds merge into a kind of super-consciousness, but they don't necessarily propose or require that this mind no longer be anything but happy, or be incapable of suffering. The problem is how you tell any kind of meaningful story if there is no longer any individuality.

Well, I am trying to end the story in the moment where the new system is instaurated- The whole thing is a allegory to how the idea of "suffering is necessary" is flawed (albeit, learning to accept that suffering exist in our current reality is a valid message)

edited 8th Feb '18 12:28:28 PM by KazuyaProta

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#4: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:17:47 PM

Well, if it's voluntary on the part of the people, and it's the alternative to total annihilation, then I think you've done half the job of selling it right there.

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#5: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:24:12 PM

[up] But which half? I mean, is not like the main characters point a gun to everyone and said "go with this or die" and more like "this is the only way to not die"

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#6: Feb 9th 2018 at 5:46:37 AM

It's your story, not mine. But I'd like to know that there's a reasonable explanation for these things, and that the characters have a fair and rational debate about the merits of the Utopia they're promised. Try not to make it look like you're pushing an Author Tract about how everybody should be happy to go to Heaven.

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#7: Feb 21st 2018 at 2:13:21 PM

[up] The issue is that it is a Author Tract, the whole story is based on the principle that there states of being that are inherently superior to others (is a actual philosophical and ethical position) and equalizing it to heaven (is a exaggeration, is not mean to be realistic) makes sense.

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