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Deadlock Clock: Jan 1st 2017 at 11:59:00 PM
StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Nov 29th 2016 at 10:20:27 AM

Two little issues with this page:

First, it is a multi-subpage trope, and those often don't have an illustration on the main page but one on each page. So, should we move the current on the main page to the Video Games subpage?

Note, though, not all subpages have illustrations; currently only Fan Works, Web Comics, Web Original and Western Animation have one. Here lay the second problem: the picture for the Web Original subpage is in fact from a web animation, and those are separated (currently on the main page). Plus, the picture isn't terribly illustrative (it depends a lot on the caption). What should we do with this one?

edited 29th Nov '16 10:21:19 AM by StFan

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#3: Nov 29th 2016 at 7:55:29 PM

Okay, now that I've had a better chance to look at this - yes, the current should be moved to the Video Games subpage. Since Web Animation is one of the folders on the main page, but we have a Web Original subpage, I'd be fine with moving the Web Animation content to that subpage and putting all that content into folders or asscapped sections.

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#4: Dec 10th 2016 at 7:34:55 AM

I'll move the main page image to the Video Games section.

But now that I look at the Web Original picture, it doesn't illustrate much... Well, maybe the small pic at the top right corner, if that's supposed to be a TV. Maybe it should be cropped?

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Dec 11th 2016 at 10:11:01 AM

[up]It doesn't illustrate much, AND it's the wrong media to boot. Hence I'm for pulling it outright.

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#6: Dec 11th 2016 at 8:54:35 PM

Mmmmm, yeah, on closer inspection that's relying on the caption (which I'm assuming is narrated dialogue in the scene) to get the context across, so it needs to go.

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#7: Dec 12th 2016 at 6:38:11 AM

Shall we remove that one altogether, then? No moving to Web Animation?

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Dec 12th 2016 at 9:54:46 AM

[up]Since that would require creating the Web Animation subpage first (currently it's a folder on the main page, since it hasn't quite enough content), then yes, pulling is simpler.

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#9: Dec 12th 2016 at 7:36:19 PM

I've moved that folder to the Web Original subpage and folderized the page.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#10: Dec 15th 2016 at 4:15:27 PM

Also, I'd suggest the following for the western animation subpage, so as to establish how deliberately the character looks at the audience.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/petergriffinglancingatviewer.png

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#11: Dec 16th 2016 at 5:39:52 AM

I think this whole trope would be better off imageless for now unless there are some pretty asskickin' suggestions. Breaking the Fourth Wall is actually a pretty high-level Super-Trope with sub- or related tropes for most applicable situations.

The suggestion above is Aside Glance. The ones on Fan Works and Web Comics are Medium Awareness. Web Original and Western Animation, if anything, are more Noticing the Fourth Wall. The Garfield cartoon pic also looks more like a crazy zoom-in to me, which isn't very uncommon in animation—the caption is really doing all the leg-work. I think the latter two should be pulled regardless for being unclear and confusing on top of possibly being better illustrations for other trope pages.

edited 16th Dec '16 5:41:49 AM by Morgenthaler

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#12: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:31:11 AM

Yeah, hard to illustrate this without illustrating a subtrope in the process.

I'm tempted to slip in a Visual Pun for the main page involving a literal wall break...

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#13: Dec 16th 2016 at 8:29:06 AM

[up] That sounds fun. It would be perfect if someone broke the fourth wall to a room rather than just a lonely wall.

edited 16th Dec '16 8:29:33 AM by Gosicrystal

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#15: Jan 3rd 2017 at 1:27:31 PM

The clock is up. The main page is tagged and the VG subpage's tag is adjusted. Locking up.

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