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Deadlock Clock: May 2nd 2016 at 11:59:00 PM
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#1: Mar 8th 2016 at 6:59:53 PM

So this image was put on the page and I've removed it due to being a massive spoiler for the Kill Em Allnote  route. I'm thinking that maybe Toriel hugging the Child could go here (or on the Heartwarming page)

Maybe it's just me, but I'm also sick of Sans being shoehorned everywhere. He's a likable character, but there is just so much Character Shilling by the fandom and having Sans as the image here would spoil way too much.

edited 8th Mar '16 7:03:07 PM by AsForMyHandle

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#3: Mar 15th 2016 at 1:21:38 PM

imo spoiler images should be allowed on Tear Jerker pages because the subject matter (which frequently includes Character Death) is inherently spoilery.

The removed original was passable under a spoiler inclusive mindset, while the suggestion works better on a Heartwarming page.

edited 15th Mar '16 1:24:08 PM by Karxrida

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#4: Mar 15th 2016 at 3:20:17 PM

I dunno, we couldn't agree on whether or not spoilers were kosher for the Nightmare Fuel subpage and ultimately opted to leave it imageless. Is Tear Jerker really that different?

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#5: Mar 15th 2016 at 6:37:36 PM

I suppose some spoilery thing is okay, but certainly not to the degree of killing the Final Boss of the Kill Em All route.

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#6: Mar 17th 2016 at 4:45:06 PM

I suggest a three panel image of Toriel dying heart.

Is not a spoiler, to be fair, is as far as Vegeta reached! It broke him!

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edited 17th Mar '16 4:47:36 PM by Tomodachi

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#7: Mar 17th 2016 at 5:00:21 PM

I'm just waiting for somebody to put in the effort to make a Lesser Dog petting montage for Funny.Undertale.

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#8: Mar 17th 2016 at 5:03:07 PM

Our own page for the game already has this:

Before reading the tropes section or other sections, please note that by its very nature, Undertale is very difficult to talk about at length without spoiling it.

I don't see the issue with having a spoiler image with that in mind.

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#9: Mar 17th 2016 at 6:11:07 PM

Yes, but just because Undertale has a very spoilery nature doesn't mean that we should just spill all the spoilers as if it was his sled.

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#10: Mar 17th 2016 at 6:39:43 PM

Slaying Toriel might work. It's very early into the game, and explicitly something you don't have to do (but probably will, if accidentally).

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#11: Mar 17th 2016 at 9:49:45 PM

I don't think it works well because it's early in the game and is something you decide yourself.

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#12: Mar 18th 2016 at 12:18:04 PM

[up]I dunno, if anything I feel like that makes it work better. Accidentally killing her and feeling horrible about it is a pretty common occurrence.

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#13: Mar 18th 2016 at 12:32:02 PM

It still relies entirely on the player. I don't think the player killing a character is going to illustrate a tearjerking moment by itself. There are certainly ways the game tries to manipulate you into feeling bad for it, but how do you illustrate that in an image?

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#14: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:50:17 AM

I combined a few images of a character's death because you'll see this event happen no matter which route you take (even through a pacifist run). I don't know if it would work so well or not.

edited 21st Mar '16 7:50:45 AM by AsForMyHandle

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#15: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:35:16 AM

It's far too simple to understand what's going on if you don't know the context.

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#16: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:01:45 AM

At this point, I honestly think leaving it blank is probably the best option.

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#17: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:04:01 AM

Should we add the first suggestion to the Heartwarming page, though?

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#18: Apr 2nd 2016 at 6:18:08 PM

Bump.

How does the Heartwarming suggestion look at wiki size?

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#19: Apr 2nd 2016 at 6:26:34 PM

Okay, that image in the OP is definitely a spoiler. Agreed for the pull.

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#20: Apr 3rd 2016 at 11:01:05 AM

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https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/torielhug_9.png

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#21: Apr 3rd 2016 at 12:46:56 PM

That's probably fine for Heartwarming.

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#22: Apr 3rd 2016 at 6:33:00 PM

Yup. You really need a context for that one.

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#23: Apr 3rd 2016 at 6:43:11 PM

I know. It's why I'm suggesting it for the Heartwarming page.

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#24: Apr 3rd 2016 at 7:05:33 PM

It's adorable, so gets a [tup] for Heartwarming.

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#25: Apr 4th 2016 at 10:33:23 AM

Yeah, that's good for the Heartwarming page.


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