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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#1: Jan 8th 2016 at 5:27:55 AM

The current image does not illustrate how the character is using props to outline a plan, it just shows someone brandishing a can of mustard. We need either a better shot from that scene or something from another work entirely. Here's one from the movie Con Air just to start off with something, though I'm not too hot about it.

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#2: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:30:58 PM

It's definitely more clear about what's going on than the current, but the quality's an issue...is there a sharper screencap from that scene anywhere?

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#3: Jan 19th 2016 at 5:21:35 AM

Sharpness is probably much less of an issue when scaled down to wiki size.

I think it's still relatively unclear, but it's better than the current.

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#4: Jan 19th 2016 at 12:26:35 PM

A total shot?

edited 19th Jan '16 12:56:38 PM by eroock

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#5: Jan 19th 2016 at 12:33:40 PM

[tup]

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#6: Jan 19th 2016 at 12:45:44 PM

That looks more like a collection of junk than the other. Is there a shot of him actually drawing in the sand, like in the first one?

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#8: Jan 19th 2016 at 2:43:40 PM

^^ Perhaps moreso, but not to the point where it doesn't indicate the trope I think. Details like the improbably neat arrangement, people standing around, the stick and the line in the sand add to the whole.

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#9: Jan 23rd 2016 at 7:48:03 AM

With a good caption, I think either 4 or 7 could work.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#10: Jan 27th 2016 at 5:29:36 PM

"Scrap metal and tin cans: invaluable when you need to plan an ambush on the double."

edited 28th Jan '16 1:24:03 AM by Morgenthaler

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#11: Jan 27th 2016 at 5:44:16 PM

Just "when you need to" tho.

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#12: Jan 27th 2016 at 6:41:17 PM

[up][up] That works in lieu of other options.

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#13: Feb 1st 2016 at 3:44:01 AM

Bump. Other thoughts or suggestions?

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#14: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:45:33 AM

I did some Google searches for the scene in The Road to El Dorado (which needs an entry on Planning with Props; I'll write one) where Tulio models the climactic plan ("Here's the gate, and here's the boat"). The armadillo knocks over a cup, and the wave knocking over the props gives Tulio his "Eureka!" Moment. But nothing on Google Images comes close. Come to think of it, it's on Netflix; I'll try and pull a screencap with my phone.

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#15: Feb 1st 2016 at 7:25:21 AM

"Here's the gate, here's the boat..."
A couple options. I like the thinking pose in the first.

And for context, the "boat" knocks over the "gate". I can maybe try and get a comparison shot of the actual boat and the actual gate.

EDIT: Or maybe I'm getting too complicated. Maybe I just crop out the armadillo and leave it at that.

EDIT 2: To be clear, these are three separate images, not a double-stack one and a second.

edited 1st Feb '16 9:18:14 AM by HeraldAlberich

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#16: Feb 3rd 2016 at 1:00:34 PM

I'm not sure that setup in the first two is clear enough, and the third is non-illustrative.

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#17: Feb 3rd 2016 at 2:59:00 PM

Yeah, I got a little screencap-happy with that third one. But I'm not sure it's possible to be any clearer with a single shot, since the trope is about the process of putting the plan together. The problem with the Con Air idea is that you can't see the people planning, only the props. Here's some people planning, and some props. Any ideas on what would help?

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#18: Feb 4th 2016 at 4:02:51 AM

El Dorado is getting there, but the props aren't obvious enough at wiki size.

I feel like I have some suggestions in my head, but I'm blanking on specifics. I swear there's at least one Calvin and Hobbes example, but I'll have to dig through my books.

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#19: Feb 4th 2016 at 10:35:35 AM

A tighter crop of 15.1, sans armadillo.

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#21: Feb 19th 2016 at 6:51:38 AM

Friday votes bump; only one in the green right now.

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#22: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:14:27 AM

Calling this one. The new pic's up and tagged and the old one has been moved to Image Links along with the better quality Con Air pic. Caption?

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edited 22nd Feb '16 6:14:41 AM by Willbyr

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#23: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:16:47 AM

Something that would clarify the image a bit would help. The suggestion in 15 complements it pretty well.

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#24: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:21:14 AM

That's the line. In full:

Tulio: Here's the gate, here's the boat...

Chel: Yeah, and?

Tulio: And, here's the gate, here's the boat...

Chel: Got that, and?

Tulio: Well, here's the goat and here's the bait!...

Chel: Tulio!

edited 22nd Feb '16 6:22:03 AM by HeraldAlberich

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#25: Feb 24th 2016 at 10:18:42 AM

I've put up the suggestion in 15. Locking up.

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