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shrikelet Square with Vertical Fill Since: Apr, 2013
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#26: Jul 12th 2015 at 10:54:01 PM

[up]Would it be acceptable to you to keep Anti Shipping Goggles as a redirect to Shipping Goggles?

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shrikelet Square with Vertical Fill Since: Apr, 2013
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#28: Jul 13th 2015 at 1:46:42 AM

Cool.

So, if I'm understand this correctly, everyone is now agreed to ~crazysamaritan's suggestion?

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Korodzik Since: Jan, 2001
#29: Jul 13th 2015 at 2:22:18 AM

Again, what about examples which don't have anything to do with rabid shippers, and more to do with people who deny a ship on principle? As I described in my previous post.

edited 13th Jul '15 2:22:34 AM by Korodzik

gallium Since: Oct, 2012
#30: Jul 13th 2015 at 4:44:26 AM

[up]Doesn't seem like that requires a separate trope.

shrikelet Square with Vertical Fill Since: Apr, 2013
Square with Vertical Fill
#31: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:23:24 AM

[up][up]Sorry ~Korodzik, I misread your post. After a nap and a meal, I agree that what you described can occur. My reading of the Shipping Goggles is that it can be it's one opposite term, perhaps with a little a tweaking of the description.

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#32: Jul 13th 2015 at 1:58:58 PM

I think there should also be a redirect or some kind of link to Armed with Canon added to the Shipping Goggles page (again, for in-writer feuds) if we're going to merge the pages, but I suppose that's another point.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#33: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:29:05 PM

I'm a little lost. Are we disagreeing or not? If we need a crowner, I think this is what it would look like:

Am I missing anything?

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#34: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:40:53 PM

I mentioned earlier also cutting Shipping Goggles because Shipping already covers it (which the description for S.G. flat-out admits).

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#35: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:35:06 PM

Shipping is the exampless super trope to Shipping Goggles and all our other shipping tropes. Yes, shipping covers it because it's a supertrope, but that's not all of what Shipping is.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#36: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:39:23 AM

Crowner.

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shrikelet Square with Vertical Fill Since: Apr, 2013
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#37: Aug 3rd 2015 at 3:40:44 AM

Sorry I vanished mid-discussion. Real life happened.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#38: Aug 3rd 2015 at 3:37:04 PM

merge both, ASG as a redirect, and mention the circumstances where it is definitely opposite of Shipping Goggles (refusing to acknowledge on principle) in the trope description. given the fact that it's based on people's opinions of other people's response to a work, it can be a legitimate trope added to Main namespaces, but it'd be best to keep examples off the trope page - especially with both SG and Anti-SG on the same page.

With a 9:4 ratio, and the next being 4:4, I think that's the consensus so far.

edited 3rd Aug '15 3:37:41 PM by lakingsif

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#40: Aug 17th 2015 at 1:28:18 PM

Bump.

Note... I accidentally upvoted the "Keep Examples" option when I meant to downvote it. Is there... a way to change that? Or at least nullify it?

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supergod Walking the Earth from the big city Since: Jun, 2012
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#41: Aug 17th 2015 at 1:46:05 PM

I don't really mind examples for Shipping Goggles, because it's not much different from other fan reaction articles, but mainly because there are people even on this very site who add examples on a work's main page based on their own interpretations and I'd personally like to see that discouraged. I voted for the merge and cut, though. Anti Shipping Goggles doesn't need examples and probably doensn't need to exist at all. It reads like it was made in retaliation to the other article.

edited 17th Aug '15 6:34:53 PM by supergod

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#42: Sep 14th 2015 at 11:47:28 AM

Bump.

Even with my accidental vote in the wrong direction, consensus seems to be holding at "Merge and cut examples."

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#43: Sep 14th 2015 at 12:05:38 PM

Locking and calling.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#44: Sep 14th 2015 at 12:13:46 PM

I've cut the examples from both and added Shipping Goggles to the Example Sectionectomy page. Someone else will have to merge the descriptions.

Also I did do this right, right?

edited 14th Sep '15 12:15:29 PM by Karxrida

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#45: Sep 14th 2015 at 12:22:54 PM

Did this crowner vote to cut examples of Shipping Goggles? I'm suuuuuuuuper okay with the idea, but I was under the impression that it'd need its own TRS topic since it's a separate trop.

In any case, turned Anti Shipping Goggles into a redirect for Shipping Goggles and modified its description. When I get a chance, I'll change the 24 wicks to ASG.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#46: Sep 14th 2015 at 12:25:11 PM

I took it as all examples being cut after the merge due to what Discar said in post 33.

edited 14th Sep '15 12:26:03 PM by Karxrida

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#47: Sep 14th 2015 at 12:40:48 PM

I'm not complaining, but I'd like to hear from a mod to make sure it's peachy.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#48: Sep 14th 2015 at 3:43:46 PM

The text does need looking at (in terms of tweaking the wording, that is).

If you've added this to the Example Sectionectomy list, paragraphs like the following need to be addressed:

Examples should generally go on one of the other Shipping Tropes pages, like Crack Pairing — particularly dubious interpretations may be listed here though.

The Anti Shipping Goggles paragraph could use tweaking.

While this usually goes hand-in-hand with goggles in favor of the fan's couple of choice, occasionally it is just simply aimed against a couple in general.

I think this means that, sometimes, people just don't like shipping anything and don't want to see it?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#49: Sep 20th 2015 at 10:02:11 AM

Yes, cut anything referring to examples. Is there a Shipping Tropes index? If so, this should be on there, but replace that first quote in the description with "Examples belong on the appropriate Shipping Trope page. However, this page may be listed as a trope on a work's examples page."

In the Anti-Shipping reference part, the part about people not liking it for no reason beyond not liking the ship should be kept. This is when people have no shipping goggles at all, rather than anti-shipping something because it gets in the way of something else.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#50: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:25:59 AM

Did additional tweaking, motion to close this thread.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

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20th Jul '15 8:37:56 AM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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