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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#26: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:12:07 PM

And film productions in general have the creative power in the hands of a few people, just being a part of it doesn't mean you are in on the collaboration. Even hiring a consultant tends to be for just getting a few ideas to work with, not about relying on them for absolute fidelity and accuracy.

Not saying they don't have the right to be offended or walk off, but there's a good chance they didn't even have the script and had no idea what they were doing in the first place. Imagine someone walking in on the set of Tropic Thunder with Robert Downey Jr. in Blackface.

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#27: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:14:34 PM

What's the point in hiring an cultural advisor if you're not going to listen to him?

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#28: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:23:37 PM

Consultants have no actual power, they are not in charge of anything. They make suggestions and the producers have the power to receive or ignore them as they see fit. It's like saying "Why hire an architect if you're just going to do all the construction yourself?"

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#29: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:25:03 PM

I struggle to think of what "Beaver Breath how did you know my name" is satirizing, or would even be funny satirizing.

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#30: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:44:41 PM

I don't even get the joke on that at all.

Like, I know what "beaver" means in the slang vernacular, but what is "beaver's breath"?

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#31: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:47:12 PM

Funny names, in general, are a sign of desperation at the screenplay level.

Objection! Exhibit A: Biggus Dickus.

[up]It could be related to pussy farts, but it still wouldn't make any sense.

edited 24th Apr '15 2:47:52 PM by Quag15

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#32: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:47:48 PM

Seems more like a stock "lol they use funny names" joke than an adult reference.

Like One Man Bucket.

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#33: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:50:04 PM

Well, the way they described it was that it's both.

  • "Hey, Beaver's Breath."
  • "How did you know my name?"

This suggests that Beaver's Breath is supposed to be something offensive. The adult reference joke is that he was calling her that in the first place, the funny names joke is that it turned out to be her name.

That's vital context for the joke. Why was he calling her Beaver's Breath? What is it supposed to mean? I do not know this slang term!

edited 24th Apr '15 2:51:19 PM by TobiasDrake

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#34: Apr 24th 2015 at 2:51:48 PM

I have an idea for Happy Madison and Netflix... if it's a comedy, how about the same kind of humor with African-Americans, with a bunch of stereotypes, like them really enjoying fried chicken, watermelon, accentuating big lips, and so on.

What? They should get a sense of humor too!

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#35: Apr 24th 2015 at 3:09:36 PM

Don't misunderstand me. I have no problem with the cast walking out if they were offended, especially since they were not even Apache and still found it too repulsing. That'd be like Canadians in mass deciding a work was too eaglelandish.

Just saying I'm sure I could have worded the damage control statement better and I'm not a personal relations person. Never took any courses relating to personal relations, to my knowledge.

If you aren't changing your stance, aren't you at least supposed to emphasize a misunderstanding? I'd be surprised if that wasn't PR 101? It's, at the very least, what everyone knows about not looking like a jackass.

edited 24th Apr '15 4:30:23 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#36: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:01:25 PM

Look at this garbage.

How does anyone still think it's a good idea to work with Adam Sandler?

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#37: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:03:49 PM

How does anyone still think it's a good idea to work with Adam Sandler?

You underestimate the appeal of Money, Dear Boy.

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#38: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:08:11 PM

So if they were offered more money they'd come back to work?

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#39: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:11:16 PM

[up]There's only so much that money can buy. Happy Madison had a chance at the very beginning to solve any issues, and they blew it, by making things worse for those who have now left.

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#40: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:12:57 PM

Do Adam Sandler movies even make that much money? Most people seem to (rightly) think they're garbage, in my experience.

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#41: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:14:34 PM

[up]Grown Ups 2 had a budget of $80 million. The box office: $247 million.

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#42: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:16:40 PM

Grown-ups was supposed to be okay though, wasn't it? The big bombas were Thats My Boy, Jack And Jill, and the king of them, Bucky Larson

Who apparently doesn't have a trope page?

edited 24th Apr '15 4:17:05 PM by Ogodei

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#43: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:20:56 PM

[up]That's My Boy and Bucky Larson, yes. Jack and Jill's box office, however, was $149.7 million (budget: $79 million).

edited 24th Apr '15 4:21:03 PM by Quag15

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#44: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:23:51 PM

Those films have been the exception, rather than the rule. Another hopeful who signed onto Adam Sandler in hopes of building onto bigger fame was then-YouTube star Brandon Hardesty, who is immensely funny. Sadly, he signed onto Bucky Larson, which went nowhere. Here's a vid of his.

edited 24th Apr '15 4:24:20 PM by Tuckerscreator

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#45: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:26:12 PM

His movies are also famous for extensive Product Placement, to the point the movie could make 10 cents and they'll break even.

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#46: Apr 24th 2015 at 4:28:11 PM

I miss 90s Adam Sandler.

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#47: Apr 24th 2015 at 5:19:38 PM

I think I saw this film when it was funny and had Mel Brooks in it as a corrupt governor and also as a Jewish Native American Chief.

RetroActiveLiar Since: Jan, 2015
#48: Apr 24th 2015 at 5:34:23 PM

Beaver Breath implies she munches carpet, and that being her name is probably poking at the "Indians get literal names" like Sitting Bull or Red Tomahawk while forming comedy from it turning out she is gay and was named as such.

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#49: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:40:31 PM

Adam Sandler: the older he gets, the funnier he used to be.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#50: Apr 24th 2015 at 7:57:34 PM

... I liked Hotel Transylvania a lot, but that's it.

One character says ‘Hey, Beaver’s Breath.’ And the Native woman says, ‘How did you know my name?’”

Even Beavis and Butt-head would think this is lame.


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