Yuki Yuna wa Yusha de Aru (Yuki Yuna is a Hero)

Still makes about as much sense as everything else.

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Judging by one screenshot, the upcoming Vita game takes place in some sort of Alternate Universe where either Gin's battle didn't happen or went differently somehow.

They're talking about Christmas Eve being upcoming, and Gin's team... didn't exactly make it to Christmas.

edited 27th Dec '14 9:50:05 PM by MoreThanBored

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So uh... who's Gin?

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She appears in the Washio Sumi wa Yuusha de Aru LN that takes place two years before the anime. She was a Hero along with Sonoko and Sumi aka Tougou. She is killed during a Vertex attack, and it's her death that leads to Shinju establishing the Mankai system. The Taisha gave Karin her terminal.

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Any place I could find a translation? A good one, preferably?

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I believe there's some available on nyaa, although I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link to it here (I'm really new to these forums).

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I was wandering what happened to the third person from that LN. So the current heroes were more of an experiment. Would be nice to know that in the anime.

Actually, one thing I do like about Yuki Yuna is that it used the LN for additional context and background, but the important and emotional stuff was all self-contained in the show. Though the more info we get the more I think it should've been in the show so that I could like the ending more, but oh well. Can't do everything in 12 episodes.

I'm wondering if the fact that most of the girls go Mankai in episode 5 is really a spoiler anymore. I've never edited pages before the Yuuki Yuuna one before, and I feel like there's a disproportionate amount of spoilers everywhere.

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No, you're not allowed to link to pirated content.

"Yup. That tasted purple."

Just noting that the final episode is credited to a different writer (not Takahiro, his name is absent in the credits). I suspect his ending was too dim for the audience and got scrapped in favor of what we got in the end.

An interesting thing I found: In episode 7, during the fancy dinner in the inn, when Fuu wanted to eat the offering placed on the shrine, she said it's okay to take them after some time. Coincidence or foreshadowing?

Also, this theory is quite sound (and thematically fitting), and I'll have it as my Head Canon until further material confirms or contradicts it.

edited 28th Dec '14 6:55:38 AM by FlowingCotton

What's 'his' ending? Show's rarely get written by one person all the way through, and I highly doubt something as a extreme as a complete ending overhaul happened without some drama.

edited 28th Dec '14 11:09:56 AM by odafangirl

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This was probably already said weeks ago, but if you look at the promotional poster (as seen on the US site: http://yuyuyu.us/), you'll notice that each girl is covering a part of her body; Yuuna covers her mouth, Tougou covers her ear, Fuu's eye is covered by one of her bangs, and Itsuki's covering her throat. Karin's entire right side is covered in shadow.

I also read someone talking about Fuu's joke about the offerings and the ending. Seeing as how this story was apparently planned two years in advance, I refuse to believe that it's a coincidence. This show is actually amazing to rewatch, not only because the So L segments take on a more meaningful tone but also because of the vast amount of foreshadowing present.

Speaking of which, the fact that there's a US website makes me think that some sort of release in the US is possible (although a dub is unlikely). I'm not sure if it would do well in the US though; many people might see it as a Madoka ripoff, and some of the SJW tumblr fanbase is against it for "promoting ableism." It was a bit of a sleeper hit in Japan though, so I'm still hopeful.

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Less popular shows have gotten releases in recent times, even dubs.

Never looked at the poster closely before. Very clever, Studio Gokumi.

Funny thing about that : an interview from the Yu Yu Yu artbook sold at Comiket surfaced. Turns out Takahiro was all on board for a happy ending since the beginning, and out of the big three of the show's staff (him, director Seiji Kishi and writer Makoto Uezu), the only one who wasn't was, in fact, Uezu... who was also the one behind the last episode.

edited 28th Dec '14 4:10:34 PM by ExeloMinish

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"Yup. That tasted purple."

After mulling over it... Yeah, I don't think that needs to be spoilered anymore. Was kinda dumb of me to spoiler tag that in the first place. I mean, it's just the episode they activated it. Nothing spoilerific about their abilities or anything. Ha ha.

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I read the Sumi Washio light novel. Thanks to Tumblr's jeweledbranchofhourai for hosting it. It was a nice read, and reading it only made me love this series even more! I'm glad.

For the uninterested....

SPOILER WARNING! PROCEED WITH CAUTION OR IGNORE THE REST OF THIS POST!

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• Ines is this world's Junes.
• Okay, I'm convinced. Udon's the food of Heroes. Being sold cheaply helps.
• Wow. Sonoko's such a sleepyhead. Haha!
• The origins of Top Hat Togo appear here.
• So for nearly 300 years, humanity didn't amass enough data on the Vertex...until now. Now I'm having pseudo-BETA flashbacks...
• So that's why Gin never got a mention in the anime... Definitely one of the best Heroes Taisha ever churned out...*salutes solemnly*
• Gin gave her life pushing those 3 Vertex back, the ones Yuuna and pals fought in episode 2. ...They will never know this, but by demolishing those 3(for now, at least), they avenged her...
• Also, Karin inherited Gin's will. Making her trip down Mankai lane all the more awesome and sad...
• Hmmm...Togo made a complete recovery, yeah? So she regained the memories that she gave up to the Shinju. I'll believe she did. Her forever forgetting that she named her sniper rifle in tribute to Gin would be too sad, after all...
• So Sonoko and Togo went Mankai many times in one battle. And that decisive battle was the one that claimed Fu and Itsuki's parents...
• Seriously, if Taisha was just upfront with the risks involved, then the organization wouldn't get such glares from me. ...At the very least, they would've truly known what they were signing up for should they accept. But Taisha withheld infomration because they assumed they would refuse, yeah? Of course, not everyone who works for Taisha's a jerk, but that's not enough for me to be on their side.
• Which is why Sonoko dropping her usual spacey persona to lash out at them was awesome.
• Also, was Sonoko talking to Togo at the end? Heh, that's pretty sweet...

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And those are my thoughts. Time to do some amateurish editing!

edited 5th Jan '15 10:06:24 PM by Diamite

Nah, it wasn't dumb to spoiler it, it's just that it was a spoiler around the time that it happened but now that the series has concluded (or has it?), it's not really a spoiler anymore. I still think that Karin's Mankai is still spoiler-worthy though.

I've been doing a lot of the editing on the page, and it's the first time I've ever really edited a page or posted on the forums in years and years of browsing tvtropes. I just figured that this series needed some more love.

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Meh. I'm ok with a happy ending, but I kinda wish it had made sense a little bit rather than feeling like a total ass-pull. Well, the first 11 episodes were great at least.

I wonder if this was supposed to be 13 episodes and something happened? It kinda felt like it.

edited 30th Dec '14 6:33:35 PM by kiukiuclk

The more I look back on the ending, the more fond I grow of it. Even if it was a little bit of an asspull, it's nice to see the girls not suffering (especially Karin). It would've been amazing if they had another 20 minutes or so to work with though. There's a lot of hints that this isn't over though, and as a season end it potentially becomes a lot better. Seeing as how it's done quite well in sales (beating Cross Ange and Psycho Pass 2), I'd say an S2 is definitely possible.

Speaking of which, it would be awesome if somebody could put pictures for Sonoko and Gin on the character page; I'm afraid that it's a little bit beyond my ability right now.

edited 30th Dec '14 9:08:30 PM by MoreThanBored

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Eh, the more I think about the more I think the ending came out of nowhere and was not earned. A sad ending may not be automatically superior, but neither is a happy one, and here it felt like they didn't have the guts to go through with what they introduced. Yeah Karin becoming blind and deaf may be a bit too depressing, but keeping most of the earlier disabilities like Togo's legs and Itsuki's voice really should've been kept. Sad endings are incredibly rare in the genre, and I'd like to see one go through with it someday.

And no, while implications of what Yuki did may improve it, without anything definite it doesn't salvage the ending in anyway.

Like I said, I felt like there was a missing episode where they do something like defeat the eldar gods lurking outside and the Shinju returns their offerings. The last couple episdoes basically implied that the world was doomed and that the vertexes would just keep coming. This ending just kinda reversed a bunch of stuff without mentioning why and just sort hoped you wouldn't notice.

They didn't even do as much with this ending as they could. (It's implied that Togo got her memories back, which would have been nice to see. )

Honestly, I was kinda expecting some sort of wacky reversal like the Vertexes were actually trying to save the world from some sort of Lotus-Eater Machine / Matrix thing run by the Shinju.

I'm gonna stay with my theory that it was a rushed ending. Kinda a pity since it was the first Madoka follower to do a pretty good job.

edited 30th Dec '14 10:20:24 PM by kiukiuclk

I kinda disagree with the idea that the ending came out of nowhere. The Sange being a sacrifice to the Shinju is pretty clearly established, and Fuu even states in episode 7 that offerings can be taken back once they've been out for a while (although she meant it as a joke). Therefore it would make sense that the Shinju allow the Heroes to take their offerings back when it wouldn't need them for a long while. Plus according to interviews Takahiro planned a happy ending from the very beginning, while Uezu wanted a darker ending and was overruled.

I just think that one episode wasn't enough to wrap up both the final battle and have the Heroes recover. It would make for a very mellow final episode, but this show was always much more focused on its characters than its plot. Plus if everyone else recovered from their disabilities but Itsuki and Tougou kept theirs it would be pretty inconsistent.

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You know, I was remembering that a long time ago there was supposed to be an American Sailor Moon with one of the scouts being in a wheelchair. Many people on this very site have mocked the idea. I can't help but wonder if the writers for Yuki Yuna got wind of the idea at some point and were like, "We're doing this. Just to show we can."

Back after all family holiday stuff so I can finally catch up on everything. And since this is so far behind and all of it has already been said, no spoiler tags.

Episode 11. In which Karin burns bright.

I wonder how, "destroying the world," is compatible with, "I won't let you get hurt." To me they seem somewhat contrdictory.

Of course she's standing in front of you. You're just sitting there sulking. Someone has to protect you. Might as well be her.

Those enemies kind of remind me of the heroes.

Finally time for Karin to show what she goes for. And of course, she does it for her friends, and not for the duty she's been given.

Not letting anything stop her. I wonder how she'll end up after that. And I wonder about how Togo will think about "not letting them getting hurt." That's an arm and a leg so far.

Not being able to see or hear is a rather bad combination. Rather clear whether she wants to burn out or fade away. Goes for Togo as well, although she plans a little more burning out.

They're so nice to their friend. Just a little friendly in-fighting.

Not that Togo's having it. She gears up in her battleship.

At one point, it almost looked as if she had them on her side. Which she technically has, but they're not agreeing with her.

Never been a problem a punch to the face wouldn't solve.

Episode 12. In which Yuna punches problems in the face.

She's got a good point. The "always be there for you" line doesn't work quite as well when that can actually be taken away. On the other hand, her emotions are still with her, even if her memories aren't.

Got to admit, I actually wrote the "in which" line before she did that. Got to also admit that it was rather satisfying.

Thought they'd gotten enough rest by now.

Being able to fall can sometimes be the greatest gift of them all.

I think it's odd that they're sitting with their eye-patches facing each other.

I wonder if they'd gotten to that point if Togo hadn't gone rogue on them. I get the impression that's what actually started the changes.

I have no idea what to feel about Togo pushing Yuna on a wheelchair.

I wonder if that's related to Paused Interrupt or some variant. She reacted first after she'd said her words, not at the moment she hear her speaking.

Also, Togo, you look like a mess. Somewhat rare in anime.

Nice ED spot. Wait, they're still talking...

That's what friendship tastes like.

Definitely hammy enough to be the villain.

Not just them. Actually one of the most heartwarming moments, even if it's just a second or two.

Good time for applause.

Now that's an ED I like to see.

Overall, a great series. One of the best Magical Girl series, and I find it is up there with Madoka. Actually, maybe even better, for criticism I have about that series. What Hylarn said about, "characters not named "Yuuna" or "Tougou" were underused," was even more pronounced in that series, to pick one thing.

I never really found the plot twists very surprising, but they weren't always obvious, and most of it wasn't clear until we got to that point. A ton of Foreshadowing only apparent in hindsight, no Ass Pulls, no Shocking Swerves, and any Deus ex Machina would come from an actual god in a way that's believable. I also don't find the end rushed. There's no difference to be whether they'd recover within the series or after, other than that as it was, it made for a more conclusive ending.

Because True Art Is Angsty. And because people like complaining and not being entirely happy with something. I like the happy ending here. It feels much more in line with the actual plot and themes.

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I actually feel like character screen-time was handled more or less perfectly. Togo got the most attention because she's interesting, had the backstory, and was the coolest character overall. Then Fuu (who I felt got more attention than Yuna) due to kickstarting everything, being the leader, and just being awesome in general. Yuna got by through protagonist powers and never overstayed her welcome. She's generic (in a good way), so there's less desire to see her doing stuff outside the obligatory awesome moments. Karin got her outsider moments and Itsuki her cute stuff. They got enough that they had a presence, but did anyone want more of them?

Not every character is equal. Some deserve more screen-time than others, and this show allocated it well I think.