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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#5176: Apr 19th 2017 at 2:46:19 PM

Most of his complaints about "leftist extremism" also tend to be misguided or selective, as I said.

There's some things he just doesn't really grasp at all when it comes to these issues, really. I remember he wrote a journal post about "toxic masculinity" where he disagreed with the concept but didn't seem to realize that he'd railed against it several times in his videos, showing that he doesn't understand what it actually is on a fundamental level.

The only way it'll affect him (aside from the advertisers pulling out of You Tube making people like him lose money)

That's the only part most of these YT'ers seem to care about, to be quite frank.

And the way people like Enter have gone about it seems utterly and fundamentally misguided. There doesn't appear to be any blame put unto people like Pew die Pie or Jon Tron for committing huge PR disasters and creating this mess in the first place.

edited 19th Apr '17 3:54:38 PM by Draghinazzo

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#5177: Apr 19th 2017 at 3:53:01 PM

Oh no I think Pewdiepie and Jontron need more blame then they are getting for this whole stupid fiasco in the first place.

Still Enter going about things in a misguided way doesn't surprise me too much. He always had that quality about him and he's been trying to fix it from what I have seen. I'd criticize him but not write him off completely. Jontron and Pewds on the other hand I have written off completely

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#5178: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:45:05 PM

[awesome][awesome][awesome][awesome][awesome] to everything both of you ([up] and [up][up]) just said.

The worst part of this is that most of Enter's fans seem to be children and young teens (as it tends to be with most YT'ers that make cartoon-related videos), a very impressionable demographic and one that seems to be just going along with what Enter is saying and taking his word without a grain of salt, if the comments on his videos (and to an extent on his DA posts, though some of those people seem more nuanced) are anything to go by.

I would never want to be a You Tube personality that has a fanbase consisting mostly of young people. No one should have that kind of power, and most people with that kind of power online don't seem to use it responsibly. I would think I would at least try to, but the opportunity to fuck up is ever-presently there.

edited 19th Apr '17 6:49:57 PM by Odd1

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#5179: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:55:34 PM

Doesn't he swear a lot?

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#5180: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:56:05 PM

Like that stops kids from watching.

(though he doesn't swear as much as he used to)

edited 19th Apr '17 6:56:21 PM by Odd1

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#5181: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:56:48 PM

Yeah he did change.

edited 19th Apr '17 7:00:01 PM by kyun

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#5182: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:57:36 PM

Can we not import that kind of age old drama into here?

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#5183: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:58:23 PM

Yeah, that definitely constitutes importing drama.

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#5184: Apr 19th 2017 at 6:59:48 PM

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#5185: Apr 19th 2017 at 7:00:50 PM

Anyways, Enter really needs to better gauge his understanding of the current You Tube shenanigans going on before he comments on them, I think that's the big consensus here.

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#5186: Apr 19th 2017 at 7:03:23 PM

[up][up]still importing drama since it's coming from an outside source, not that it coming from an inside source would make it any less against the rules.

[up]Agreed. Here's hoping he at least TRIES to look into this more? He was good about that on the topic of abuse—his Further Thoughts On video that covered that was surprisingly well-researched and well-nuanced.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#5187: Apr 19th 2017 at 7:13:17 PM

I would never want to be a You Tube personality that has a fanbase consisting mostly of young people. No one should have that kind of power, and most people with that kind of power online don't seem to use it responsibly. I would think I would at least try to, but the opportunity to fuck up is ever-presently there.

Yeah, it's a real shitty place to be in but a lot of YT'ers are more or less in the same situation without even trying.

I think doing YT, in particular, can make it easy to not realize the sheer scope of influence you have. It's not something that necessarily got a lot of mainstream coverage until quite recently, it was just a thing some people did in their little corner of the internet and this whole WSJ scandal has brought to light the fact that when you get up to a certain viewership count that doesn't really apply anymore.

It's absolutely true that a lot of young people are more familiar with the likes of PDP than a lot of celebrities, he's just more relevant to their everyday lives and entertainment. Going forward, I think if anyone wants to do the YT thing they should be 100% aware of the fact they have to be careful with what they do and say because they're not gonna get a free pass just because they're on YT.

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#5188: Apr 19th 2017 at 7:32:49 PM

[up]this exactly

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#5189: May 2nd 2017 at 11:27:14 AM

So, the short lived show Committed is next on the chopping block, followed by Hank's Choice (The one where Hank makes Bobby sleep in the doghouse) and the long awaited Atlantis 2.

He's planning on doing a few more revisits, maybe. (I asked him about Putting Your Hoof Down during a live stream and he considered the Joshscorcher collab to be the revisit.) The revisits he plans on doing:

  • 12 Oz. Mouse, to try and see if he can "get it " again.
  • Wayside, to explain why it fails as an adaptation better than before.
  • Rocket Monkeys, because the previous review barely talked about the episode.
  • The Scum Bob episode "Stuck in the Wringer", now that he can understand sarcasm better.
  • And possibly, It's A Wishful Life.

This would be a marathon similar to the 90's one he did.

Pat86 Since: Feb, 2011
#5190: May 2nd 2017 at 9:59:44 PM

The next review is up. He compares "Committed" to "Glenn Martin", which I find sort of interesting since Catherine O'Hara played the wives in both cartoons (which I found out after looking this information up on IMDB).

To me, it reminds me a lot of "Baby Blues", another bland early 2000s cartoon based on a comic strip (and, unlike "Committed", I've actually seen episodes of it). The "Baby Blues" comic strip was family-friendly but they painfully added adult elements to the cartoon to make it more edgy for television (mostly by adding some dysfunctional, one-dimensional supporting characters who weren't in the original strip). It seems like "Committed" suffered the same fate.

edited 2nd May '17 10:01:02 PM by Pat86

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#5191: May 3rd 2017 at 4:40:58 AM

tbh I thought the Baby Blues show was okay, nothing special but nothing terrible

The Scum Bob episode "Stuck in the Wringer", now that he can understand sarcasm better.

Maybe as a counterpart he should cover as an Admirable Animation the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends episode "Coco, My Dear" though I doubt that'll ever happen.

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#5193: May 3rd 2017 at 5:37:54 AM

I think Jerry/Beth and Homer/Marge are the only idiotic dad/neurotic mom pairings that work.

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#5194: May 3rd 2017 at 6:08:11 AM

Yah I enjoyed this one. The thing about those dysfunctional family sitcoms is that they were originally created as a response to the disconnect in TV at the time where all sitcom families were very much Full House, Leave It To Beaver type families where everyone got along all of the time. Then it just became a crutch because it was simply easier to write and easier to inject conflict into a situation where all parties hate each other. Luckily that's been toned way the fuck down and we can have shows like Blackish where the characters are flawed and may make mistakes, but ultimately have reasons why they care for each other.

Also the Dilbert cartoon was terrible and showed all of Scott Adams' neuroses way before they were pretty obvious

edited 3rd May '17 6:09:49 AM by iamathousandapples

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#5195: May 3rd 2017 at 8:22:37 AM

Yeah, I'm really sick and tired of the "idiot man married to neurotic woman who supposedly has it together". It's become a cliché, at this point having a Standard '50s Father in your show would be MORE subversive simply because having the father be a bumbling, overweight idiot manchild has been the default for so long.

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#5196: May 3rd 2017 at 8:54:44 AM

I don't know, when was the last time you took a look at NBC's sitcom lineup? It seems the new trope at least on there is that the mom is smarter, but also crazy and domineering, while the dad is saner but haplessly unable to stand up to her.

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#5197: May 3rd 2017 at 9:46:45 AM

[up]Never, because television is both an outdated form of distribution and filled to the brim with ads?

edited 3rd May '17 9:46:57 AM by Grounder

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#5198: May 3rd 2017 at 11:31:50 AM

I think sitcoms on the whole have evolved past a family dynamic. Most of the sitcoms I can think of are a group of unrelated people in a workplace(Superstore, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Trial and Error, etc) . Blackish is probably the only family sitcom I know of currently airing at the moment.

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#5199: May 3rd 2017 at 8:28:24 PM

I really liked this review. In fact, it's the first review of his in a while that I wanted to watch again. I also liked his little rant about cheerleading not being considered a sport.

Like most of us, I've never heard of Committed until now. What channel was it on? Do we even have a TV Tropes page on it? I have seen one episode of Dilbert (Chad Rocco and Rowdy C. apparently recommend it) and Baby Blues (I watched a lot of Adult Swim when I was younger).

But yeah, this show really does read like an unintentional Deconstruction of the whole Bumbling Dad / In-Control Mom dynamic common to the Dom Com; two people who once loved each other now stuck in a dull, dismal coexistence surrounded by the withered remains of their dreams and passions, too frustrated and soul-sucked to even consider the possibility of separating and starting anew, desperate for a few token Aw, Look! They Really Do Love Each Other moments to bring some happiness into their dreary lives, each one coming with the knowledge that it won't last, and by next morning, they'll have sunk back into cold, bitter reality.

edited 3rd May '17 8:28:39 PM by Noah1

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#5200: May 3rd 2017 at 9:14:24 PM

I actually enjoy the idea of a couple like that being played for drama instead. The problem is it's mostly presented as a regular relationship with ups and downs and with sexist implications that we're supposed to find funny


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