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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#1: Jun 27th 2014 at 1:10:34 PM

This one looks interesting: a retelling as to why he turned into a vampire.

Admittedly the trailer rather spoils EVERYTHING (Don't think the studio has much faith in it) but it looks pretty big budget from the scenes alone.

PLUS CHARLES DANCE VAMPIRE

https://www.facebook.com/DraculaUntoldUK?fref=photo

Not sure if there's a Youtube version for you non-bookfacers.

edited 27th Jun '14 1:11:12 PM by JerekLaz

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#2: Jun 27th 2014 at 2:15:10 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't watch the trailer if I were you. It probably spoils the first three-fourths of the film. Which doesn't look that bad, to be honest. I'd go so far as to say it looks like what Maleficent should have been, albeit a bit darker. That and Evans is a pretty good actor.

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#3: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:14:11 PM

This looks boring.

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#4: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:32:46 PM

I'm mildly curious about it. At the very least it seems like an actual Protagonist Journey to Villain instead of bullshit Draco in Leather Pants.

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#5: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:05:33 PM

If it is, it'll be the best thing to come out of this "iconic villain origin story" craze.

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#6: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:11:05 PM

Producers are caught in a logic break where they recognize that people want to see movies starring their favorite villains but don't understand that people want to see them be villains.

DO: Give the character more three-dimensionality, creating understandable backstory and motivation that builds the villain's identity, personality, character.

DON'T: Go so far with it that you rewrite the villain as the hero of the piece, because then it's not a villain origin story, now is it?

Personally, I actually really liked Maleficent, but I can see the reasons why others didn't. Producers are trying really hard to have these Villain Origins end happily, and to quote Rumpelstiltskin from Once Upon a Time, "Villains don't get a happy ending."

edited 27th Jun '14 7:13:24 PM by TobiasDrake

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#7: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:33:09 PM

On a side-note, I'd like if someone once made a movie about the actual guy behind the myth, Vlad Tepes, without the supernatural elements.

Dracula Untold seems to be a Historical Fantasy of sorts (I read some synopsies mentioning that the movie's Big Bad is the Ottoman Emperor who Vlad fought with), but I'd enjoy a straight biopic of Vlad the Impaler..

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#8: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:44:12 PM

I am getting tired of hearing that everyone wants to rule the world. This is the second or third trailer I have seen with it.

The movie looks interesting.

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#9: Jun 28th 2014 at 5:18:25 AM

Dude (referring to director or producer), you have to be really, really good in toppling Gabriel Belmont's Dracul to make this viable.

Same as usual.... Wing it.
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#10: Jun 28th 2014 at 8:47:56 AM

What on earth are you talking about? What does the Castlevania series have to do with this or any other Dracula themed movie?

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#11: Jun 28th 2014 at 9:14:32 AM

They very recently did an entire game dedicated to the origin story of Dracula, and then did a sequel that puts players in the role of Dracula himself.

That's fresh in the minds of a lot of gamers, so this movie is going to draw comparisons from that section of the audience; that much is unavoidable.

edited 28th Jun '14 9:15:00 AM by TobiasDrake

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#12: Jun 28th 2014 at 10:01:45 AM

It is still largely irrelevant. Especially considering the target audience is doubtfully such a narrow selection of the population.

It also is not a video game movie but an entirely separate piece of media.

edited 28th Jun '14 10:02:14 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#13: Jun 28th 2014 at 2:21:03 PM

Of course an entirely different subset will be complaining that he isn't sparkling...

Overall it'll be interesting to see if they go the "present day" a la Victorian times, to tell the story from the other perspective. All this footage could be right from the start of the film alone.

They really struck good with the casting of Dracula though - and I like how the armour is a vague nod to Gary Oldman's in Bram Stoker's Dracula. Ridged and red... although not quite as S&M.

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#14: Jun 28th 2014 at 2:26:32 PM

Overall it'll be interesting to see if they go the "present day" a la Victorian times, to tell the story from the other perspective.

There's a few stills floating around (like the one at the top of this page) that show him in what looks like Victorian clothing. Here's a better one.

Speaking of that article: I know some people will object to a PG-13 for this one, but if the filmmakers want, they can get away with plenty of R-worthy violence as long as the blood's a different shade of red.

edited 28th Jun '14 2:35:09 PM by Mort08

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#15: Jun 28th 2014 at 2:40:28 PM

Could be interesting, assuming they don't do something silly like make him be really Satan (thank you, Hugh Jackman) or try to make him a targic (sic) misunderstood loner with a heart of gold.

And keep him away from any female whose name sounds like Bella.

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#16: Jun 28th 2014 at 2:44:01 PM

Wait, Dracula wasn't Satan in Van Helsing. Van Helsing was strongly implied to be a fallen angel, but Dracula was a person (at one point he literally lists his birth and subsequent death date). He had satanic powers, but he wasn't Satan.

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#17: Jun 28th 2014 at 2:57:58 PM

Now that you mention it, I recall that the girl was related to Drac, non? Blame my poor memory. Either way.

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#18: Jun 28th 2014 at 3:16:59 PM

If I well remember, Dracula's backstory in that movie went thus: He was a member of a Gypsy royal family (Just roll with it) who died and made a deal with the Devil (or something similar), thus turning into the monster we know today, so his father, seeing his son became a monster, made a pact with God: His family would never enter Heaven (being stuck in purgatory for eternity) until Dracula died. Hence his entire lineage is dedicated to killing Dracula. The movie's Love Interest is the last member of that family, so she's techinically tangently related to Dracula (who must be her great-great-great-great-great-great uncle or something of the sort).

I actually quite liked that movie's backstory on Dracula.

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#19: Jun 28th 2014 at 3:19:02 PM

It's a great vampire backstory, but a lousy Dracula backstory.

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#20: Jun 28th 2014 at 9:03:44 PM

So, this doesn't look like the worst thing ever. But I could be wrong.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
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#21: Jun 28th 2014 at 10:01:13 PM

The director is a first-timer, which gives me pause. Then again, every great director was a first-timer once.

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#22: Jun 29th 2014 at 6:06:25 PM

If he's a first timer, he doesn't have a history of sucking to fall back on. He may acquit himself well. wild mass guessDracula Untold will be so insanely successful that Bela Lugosi will become a mere footnote in the distinguished history of Luke Evans as THE quintessential Draculawild mass guess

edited 29th Jun '14 6:06:58 PM by Eagal

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#23: Jun 30th 2014 at 8:11:46 AM

You know, I figured eventually Dracula would get the heroic treatment. I can only imagine how many Romanians who view Prince Vlad as a national hero have felt irked by most of the West's obsession with making him one of the ultimate evils, even the real person had been demonized for years before people thought to ask the Romanians what they thought of him.

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#24: Jun 30th 2014 at 9:35:03 AM

[up]I think he already did get the heroic treatment a few times in the media, though perhaps not with this large a budget.......How much did it cost to make Lords of Shadow 2, again?

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#25: Jun 30th 2014 at 4:27:04 PM

Though I repeat, this movie does not seem (from the trailers at least) to be heroifying him per see. They're saying he was a good guy once but developed in the monster we know as he was corrupted by his power. Or at least that's what the trailer implies ("You think you're alive because you can fight? You're alive because of what I DID to save you!" in the most spiteful tone possible)

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