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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#26: Jun 21st 2014 at 4:08:55 AM

Yeah, a read of the examples has a majority as basically Artistic License – Sports, but there are also plenty of examples for the character getting things wrong as well. A split is definitely needed

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#27: Jun 21st 2014 at 6:44:57 AM

Methinks that we ought to crowner whether to disambiguate this.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#28: Jun 21st 2014 at 9:05:19 AM

Maybe just move the Real Life examples to Artistic License – Sports and make it into No Real Life Examples Please, if there's already even a little misuse. Change the name and keep Gretzky Has the Ball as redirect to Artistic License – Sports if it has so many wicks.

[up] Single prop disambig crowner, Septimus?

edited 21st Jun '14 9:06:09 AM by lakingsif

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#29: Jun 21st 2014 at 9:20:07 AM

Real Life isn't Artistic License. Artistic License is "Creators are allowed to be inaccurate if the inaccuracy serves the story better than accuracy would. "Creators" here means those people who produce a work of fiction or entertainment: authors, writers, directors, composers. Real Life doesn't have an author or composer or director.

edited 21st Jun '14 9:22:52 AM by Madrugada

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#30: Jun 21st 2014 at 9:22:28 AM

He's talking about the examples that are "works get sports rules/facts wrong".

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jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
#31: Jun 21st 2014 at 2:19:22 PM

"it strikes me that hockey is played with a ball"

Hockey is played with a puck. That's the joke.

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#32: Jun 21st 2014 at 4:37:26 PM

[up] Technically, only Ice hockey is played with a puck and in pretty much everywhere but North America is referred to as ice hockey, whilst the other forms of hockey — all of which are played with various different balls — are termed as hockey. Watch St. Trinian's for what most English people know hockey solely as.

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jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
#33: Jun 21st 2014 at 7:00:11 PM

[up]Well, Wayne Gretzky played the kind with a puck, which is the joke.

Last_Hussar Since: Nov, 2013
#34: Jun 22nd 2014 at 1:18:45 PM

That's nice, if you know who Wayne Gretzky is, and that he plays Ice Hockey, not Hockey. I only know who he is because I had to read the trope to find out what the wick was on about.

gallium Since: Oct, 2012
#35: Jun 22nd 2014 at 1:42:20 PM

If one has even a passing familiarity with North American professional sports, one is highly likely to know who Wayne Gretzky is. And this is a trope about sports and how they are portrayed in entertainment media.

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#36: Jun 22nd 2014 at 4:37:30 PM

[up] Sorry, but that is completely not the case. First, because Gretzy retired fifteen years ago, and second because people may well be familiar with the highly popular baseball, football, or basketball instead of ice hockey. It is probably fair to assume that the vast majority of our readers have no idea who this guy is, or that they'll think of contemporary pop singer Paulina Gretzky first.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#37: Jun 22nd 2014 at 6:16:26 PM

I'm going to stretch my mod muscles here, and call a halt to this whole "too obscure" or not? name argument, because all it is at this point is "yes he is" "no, he isn't." et cetera, etcetera, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

While the use is divided between "character in a work gets something wrong about sports, demonstrating their ignorance of the subject" and "creator got this wrong for some reason (i.e Artistic License – Sports)", that is a result of a murky definition, not the name.

No one has provided evidence of misuse related to the name. Therefore, I'm going to lock up this thread and start a new one addressing the problems with the definition.

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