Not Tropeworthy: Hunger Hyperbole

The entire description for this is: "Oftentimes in life, when people are really hungry, they'd make a statement that they are so hungry that they could eat a horse. Sometimes, this may often overlap with Hold Your Hippogriffs."

It seems to be saying "if your friend's hungry they might say they're so hungry they could eat a horse". Well, thank you for that, what's your trope?

Clock is set.

I fixed the description a while back so that the context is expanded upon slightly.

All you've added is a list of slightly related tropes: "The character may sometimes be a Big Eater or an Extreme Omnivore. Sometimes, this may often overlap with Hold Your Hippogriffs or Meat-O-Vision. Tends to show up in Comedy."

That doesn't improve the description, nor make it tropeworthy. In fact, it just points out that any example in which the Stock Phrase may have purpose is a different trope.

IMO, needs to go.

I mistakenly forgotten to say "The character making this statement" as part of the description, but I fixed it now. To be fair, the title isn't even a stock phrase. I mean, how many dialogue tropes actually don't actually start with a line of dialogue? In my opinion, Hunger Hyperbole isn't exactly a Stock Phrase, but it's still a dialogue trope.

edited 15th Jul '14 1:41:43 PM by CaveCat

that's still chairs. Basically, it would just be a list of people exaggerating how hungry they are, which isn't a trope

It isn't chairs if it serves a significant purpose. In fact, a few of the examples in Hunger Hyperbole serve a significant purpose. The other examples are for comedy.

Cavecat, you have a real tendency to make things that aren't actually tropes. How does someone announcing how hungry they are advance the plot or shape the story? Explain please, and maybe we can figure out if it's actually a trope.

edited 15th Jul '14 1:53:51 PM by tryrar

Well, there's the first VeggieTales example, for starters. The conversation between Jimmy and Jerry Gourd in that one consists entirely of Hunger Hyperbole, and that's what leads to them being able to save the ship by eating the giant popcorn meteor that is about to collide with the ship. Not only that, but making a statement about being hungry enough to eat a horse is supposed to serve as comedy. I think I should've added that as a Comedy Trope too.

edited 15th Jul '14 2:00:11 PM by CaveCat

The only thing here that might be a trope is when someone says they are "hungry enough to eat X" and something conspires to actually produce said item, whether or not the character can eat it or even if it's actually edible. That appears to be all of 4 examples by my count, and this page is it, as only 6 other pages use this trope at all, and about half of them are indices. The other half are just character saying he is hungry enough to eat x, which is NOT. A. TROPE.

Well, that's just it. Half of the examples do mention the character stating that they're hungry enough to eat X. Even so, some of the examples do mention about the character making the statement before producing something (the Sabrina: The Animated Series example comes to mind).

edited 16th Jul '14 9:09:38 AM by CaveCat

Yeah, there's 5 examples of that, which is good and all, but that's not what this trope actually is. The definition of this trope as stated:

Oftentimes in life, when people are really hungry, they'd make a statement that they are so hungry that they could eat a horse. This is used to really establish just how hungry someone is. The character making this statement may sometimes be a Big Eater or an Extreme Omnivore. Sometimes, this may often overlap with Hold Your Hippogriffs or Meat-O-Vision. Tends to show up in Comedy.

Which isn't "character states they are hungry enough to eat X, X appears." Which is more tropable due to being a comedy gag. I'd say the best action is to cut this and YKTTW a new trope about X appearing after someone states they are hungry enough to eat X.

Tell you what, how about if I just sort of expand on the description saying that the minute a character mentions about being hungry enough to eat x, the x they mentioned instantaneously appears? How does that sound?

Umm, cavecat, you're starting to have ownership issues. TRS works by consensus, which means unilateral changes doesn't happen. Let's wait for other people to chime in.

I am honestly not sure whether this is a trope or not, maybe leaning towards yes.

The issue at hand is it's a bit of a Stock Phrase (with some variations), and those are pretty hard to tell if they are a trope or not

Well, keep in mind that when I first started this trope at YKTTW, I originally called it "Could Eat A Horse", until someone suggested to me that I retitle it to Hunger Hyperbole, because the first title sounded too much like a stock phrase.

It is true that this is Not A Trope regardless of what it's called. No New Stock Phrases is usually cited in objection to a trope's name, but that article used to focus on its definition. Changing the name had little or no effect on the definition, which is the problem.

Based on your YKTTWs (literally dozens of them are thinly-veiled chairs), I think the two most probable explanations of this behavior are 1) you don't understand what a trope is (as this site uses the word), or 2) your goal is to increase personal "pages launched" count rather than to make this site better.

edited 17th Jul '14 2:18:33 PM by rodneyAnonymous

I do understand what a trope is, and I am not trying to increase the number of pages launched just because I want to, I only did that because I've been losing patience with waiting to see if I can get more hats for most of my tropes. Now granted, I was able to launch some of my tropes once they got to 5 hats, but you can't patronize me just because I don't have much capabilities of being a troper. I'm a good troper and that's what I am. There's also the fact that a couple of the tropes I created and launched got cutlisted because the first one was already mentioned in another trope, and the second because I made its number a title instead of the actual title, back when they made trope names with punctuation marks appear as a mix of numbers and letters in the url.

Possibly they lack hats because not enough people think the article should be launched, and trying to avoid that bottleneck is defeating the entire purpose of those hats existing at all. Also note the rebuttal above says "am not" but offers weak explanations and no arguments or reasonable justifications, and as far as I can tell recent allegations of chairs on your YKTTW drafts are being ignored completely. So I still believe that those are the two most likely explanations, despite protests to the contrary. Actions speak louder.

(PS: Negative criticism isn't automatically a personal attack, patronizing, emotion-driven, or etc. Maybe it is simply accurate, and getting defensive like that doesn't convince anyone otherwise, it just says "I'm not listening.")

edited 17th Jul '14 9:51:27 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Rodney said it better than I ever could. We don't use TRS frivolously, someone took a look at this and went "Hey, that doesn't look right" and brought it up here. Being defensive like this just makes you look like you have serious ownership issues

Edit: Just so we don't keep talking circles with each other, I think it's time to have a crowner as we're basically at the point of "This isn't a trope." "Yes it is." "No it isn't." "Yes it is." "No it isn't."

Edit Edit: single prop for cut here

edited 18th Jul '14 7:12:13 AM by tryrar

Sorry about that, I've just been running out of steam with the tropes I've been creating. Even so, I can't let that stop me from being a viable troper.

Crowner's hooked.

^^ Please explain what you mean by that. I don't understand. Repeatedly proposing chairsy articles in YKTTW is exactly the sort of thing that makes someone look like not a good troper. Many excellent tropers have never launched a single article; it would be much better to launch none than to launch bad ones.

What I mean is I've come up with some good tropes, but as I've lately, whenever I think I come up with a good idea, it's already been taken.