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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#101: Jun 2nd 2014 at 9:23:53 PM

While I do wish to see Japan keep up this economic growth, I'm not sure relying on the consistently dead-in-the-water Trans Pacific Partnership as the savior of your economy is a great idea.

Besides, isn't one of the bigger issue that the Japanese government needs to be to allow firms to die, which it isn't, due to protectionist laws?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#102: Jun 3rd 2014 at 2:26:53 AM

Japan has slso big problems with revolving doors, "Iron Triangle" and other economo-political complexes. See also certain factors in Japanese nuclear regulation in the run-up to the Fukushima crisis.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#103: Jun 3rd 2014 at 3:13:13 AM

[up] Of course, some of thatnote  led to Japan's rapid- post-war growth.

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#104: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:31:26 PM

Tiananmen Square anniversary: while thousands gather in HK, Beijing locks down.

Tens of thousands of people gathered at a candlelit vigil in Hong Kong on Wednesday to commemorate the Tiananmen Square crackdown, while tight security in Beijing and a pre-emptive strike against activists prevented the public from marking the 25th anniversary.

Police flooded the heart of the Chinese capital, with hundreds of uniformed and plainclothes officers carrying out identity checks at the site of the 1989 pro-reform protests. Some foreign media were ordered to leave or were prevented from entering the square.

Censors deleted online posts, blocked searches for sensitive terms and blacked out television screens when foreign broadcasters covered the anniversary. Users of Linked In, one of the few foreign social media services not blocked in China, complained that it had censored posts about the anniversary or related detentions.

Between 90-180 thousand people took part in a candlelight vigil in HK to mark the date. Meanwhile on the mainland, pre-emptive strikes against activists and armed military police flooding the central square prevented any hint of protest. Their internet censorship for which China is so infamous was ramped up. I worry about Hong Kong as 2047 draws near.

I suppose we should all take a moment to remember the brave activists who were murdered by the Chinese security forces. They sang the Internationale on the square, not because they necessarily were Communist true believers, but because it was the only song many of them knew that fit the occasion. The lyrics from Billy Bragg's adaptation seem oddly appropriate:

And so begins the final drama,

In the streets and in the fields.

We stand unbowed before their armour,

We defy their guns and shields!

edited 4th Jun '14 4:35:42 PM by Achaemenid

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#105: Jun 4th 2014 at 4:36:48 PM

No matter what the CCP does to us we shall not forget.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#106: Jun 5th 2014 at 3:47:17 AM

Dalai Lama called for a peaceful change to China in press releases made from India. Chinese Foreign Ministry insists that his speech has a hidden motive to it.

edited 5th Jun '14 8:19:07 AM by Ominae

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#107: Jun 5th 2014 at 7:28:07 AM

Everything that comes from outside the CCP has a hidden motive to it, if you ask them.

edited 5th Jun '14 7:28:18 AM by MarqFJA

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#108: Jun 5th 2014 at 7:42:19 AM

[up]Yep. Like I've said before, the PRC's official state media is quite possibly the most xenophobic and insecure type that there is.

entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#109: Jun 5th 2014 at 8:04:01 AM

It's quite obvious the Dalai Lama has a hidden motive. Proclaim "peace" and what-not, even offer "negotiations", but suddenly he'll be massing forces against the Communists.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#110: Jun 5th 2014 at 8:05:40 AM

[up][up]Not just xenophobic, it clamps down on anything that makes the government looks bad whether it comes from external or internal sources. Which is also why a lot people even in China don't trust it...

edited 5th Jun '14 8:06:18 AM by nightwyrm_zero

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#112: Jun 5th 2014 at 11:22:31 AM

[up]I'm paraphrasing here but I think someone once said, "If the party doesn't eliminate corruption, we'll lose the trust of the people; if we do, we lose party members."

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#114: Jun 6th 2014 at 8:48:47 AM

@ Greenmantle

Can I please send that PM now?

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#115: Jun 6th 2014 at 2:09:04 PM

Go for it...

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#117: Jun 7th 2014 at 8:37:03 PM

[up][up] Sorry to double-post, fell you won't get it if I edited [up]. Got my PM yet?

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#118: Jun 8th 2014 at 5:37:51 AM

Topic, please, Hawk....

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Vellup I have balls. from America Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#119: Jun 9th 2014 at 12:01:00 AM

Mr. Abe, I am disappoint. (I don't know if this belongs in maritime disputes?)

You'd think that with the U.S.'s military presence in Japan, we'd have a bit more say over this sort of thing. Bleeaargh.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#120: Jun 9th 2014 at 12:09:15 AM

[up] The US military isn't that popular in Japan, I think.

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#121: Jun 9th 2014 at 2:44:07 AM

Abe said that in contrast to the foreign perception that whaling communities mercilessly exploit the giant mammals, whaling towns appreciate the meat and show respect to the creatures with religious services at the end of every hunting season.

Yeah, you know, religious services are all nice and dandy, but perhaps everyone would be better served if they channelled that respect into not hunting as many whales. Religion isn't going to save those animals from extinction.

Also, "Japanese culture", my ass. Whaling on industrial scale is very much a western invention, exported to Japan with pretty much everything else during the Meiji period.

You know, I try to be understanding. I get that whaling is big business in Japan, and no politician wants to be the one to tell all those people they are out of a job. Though I do think that giving it the "elephant in the room" treatment is cowardice, at least I can understand where that attitude would be coming from.

But a big-time politician actively throwing his support behind the operation just makes me angry.

edited 9th Jun '14 2:45:00 AM by Kayeka

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#122: Jun 9th 2014 at 2:48:35 AM

I believe whaling actually became entrenched because whales fed Japan in the occupation period post-WWII.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#123: Jun 9th 2014 at 2:59:23 AM

The US military isn't that popular in Japan, I think.

Part of that bad rep is due to its personnel committing crimes like rape or killing civilians by accident. Never mind that the leftists groups (including ultra ones) don't like this for being "imperialist".

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#125: Jun 9th 2014 at 3:39:39 AM

A noble end, though I'm a little worried about the kind of means they will likely employ to reach it.


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