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m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#26: Dec 28th 2013 at 4:49:26 AM

I like 25.2, but it's an ambiguous example. They could be Half-Identical Twins, they can also be the same gender. It isn't possible to see this in the image but it might still be better to use a straighter example.

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#27: Dec 28th 2013 at 5:57:28 AM

[up]Then the same could probably be argued about the current image, since it's not entirely clear whether they are Half-Identical Twins or Opposite Sex Clones.

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#28: Dec 28th 2013 at 6:07:49 AM

The only bad thing about the current is that more people are familiar with canon Rin/Len (and how they might not even be twins) as opposed to the characters they play in Story of Evil.

Here's a couple more of Desna and Eska: 1 2

I think the Interesting Twins are better than the current. Would have my vote if not for comparatively shoddy quality.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#29: Dec 28th 2013 at 6:25:33 AM

Tree Lo, can you clarify why you feel Phil & Lil are "way cluttered"? Are you saying the image will lose detail when uploaded? Are you saying there's too much detail on their clothes? Or the fact that there's four of them?

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#30: Dec 28th 2013 at 6:34:42 AM

[up]The last one, it's a bit redundant having them as teens and as kids in the same image for our purposes.

redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#31: Dec 28th 2013 at 12:23:25 PM

I'm going to buck the trend and disagree. I think a potential "problem" is the anime/manga-esque art style; which is notoriously known to often feature Only Six Faces. Meaning, just because two characters look similar (even identical), that doesn't mean they're definitely related, let alone twins. As such, I'm in favour of Lil and Phil as suggested in 1.2 as the more detailed faces make it less ambiguous.

Amen. Honestly, most anime faces look alike to me and I know I'm not the only person who feels the same way.

For Phil and Lil, I tried looking for a cast picture in which they're the focal point, since it will show that the show averts the whole Only Six Faces thing, but I'm not having any luck. Perhaps we could crop most of this image and just leave the twins and their parents.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#32: Dec 28th 2013 at 12:44:15 PM

[up] You and others might feel that way but that's just it, it's entirely subjective reasoning which isn't a good reason to reject an image.

peasant Since: Mar, 2011
#33: Dec 28th 2013 at 7:04:35 PM

I disagree. I think it's pretty objective whether or not an artist uses the same noses, eyes, face shapes, etc for their characters. What's subjective is our ability to differentiate in spite of these similarities.

redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#34: Dec 29th 2013 at 11:50:34 AM

You and others might feel that way but that's just it, it's entirely subjective reasoning which isn't a good reason to reject an image.

I'm sorry, but this reeks of Fan Myopia. Since many non-anime fans think that these characters all look alike, isn't your reasoning also subjective?

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#35: Dec 29th 2013 at 11:57:31 AM

Speaking as a non-anime fan, when I look at character sheets for anime/manga pages I see a lot more than 6 similar faces. Never mind that ignoring the non-facial differences seems suspect to me.

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#36: Dec 29th 2013 at 12:24:52 PM

I'm not an anime fan, I don't dislike it like some but I don't think the opposite of Fan Myopia should apply here like has been said.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#37: Dec 29th 2013 at 2:20:01 PM

Tree Lo: What about two images, one of baby Phil&Lil, and one of "tween" Phil&Lil? Would that cut down enough on the "busy" that it would work? I like having both because showing the aging emphasizes the similarities/differences in a way the other images don't.

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#38: Dec 29th 2013 at 2:43:56 PM

I'm voting for the current picture, and the suggestion of Twincest is exaggerated at best. Holding hands does not incest make.

Real Life examples are darn near biologically impossible, so that would make a bad source.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#39: Dec 30th 2013 at 12:52:11 AM

[up][up] Just Treelo, no intercaps. Um, it would yeah as long as that's flagged clearly with a label or something. Just that one, it's not a good image if you have no clue who the characters are.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#40: Dec 30th 2013 at 4:37:05 AM

Current is still best.

As for those Only Six Faces arguments, that kind of matters less when you only have two characters anyway. That they still have the same eyes and hair, both colour and style, speaks more to me than facial shape. Facial shape you have to compare with others to know if it differs or not, since that is dependent on style, but I wouldn't think most people would have to have any comparison to know that eyes and hair are usually not that similar.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#41: Dec 30th 2013 at 4:41:22 PM

I am not a big fan of anime, but the idea that all works in that style might suffer from Only Six Faces is pretty insulting.

edited 30th Dec '13 4:41:49 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010
#42: Jan 2nd 2014 at 11:48:59 AM

I feel that the Desna/Eska pics and the Phil/Lil pics are lateral moves, the rest inferior. I think this thread is going nowhere and is just descending into Complaining.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
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#44: Jan 2nd 2014 at 9:41:21 PM

[up][up] I completely agree with the second statement. I've loaded the Image Links page with the suggestions; locking up.

edited 2nd Jan '14 9:41:31 PM by Willbyr

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