Misused: Sadist Show

And Evangelion. I mean, yeah, that scene where he crushes 03's pilot was funny... Actually, it is, but only because it sounded funny.

edited 18th Nov '13 2:39:54 PM by Psyga315

Is a description rewrite alone going to ward off the main misuse, though?

edited 18th Nov '13 5:41:41 PM by Leaper

If anything happens, the least favorable option (IMO) is to cut it. So if a rewrite is what it takes to avoid that option, then so be it for me.

edited 18th Nov '13 7:09:00 PM by Psyga315

I think the first step is making it damn clear what the threshold is, and when something has gone far enough we consider it this trope.

@22 Ziggy, sympathetic? Hardly. His suffering is played for laughs and is the entire point of the strip, so it totally qualifies. The trope description doesn't say anything either about the man who gets mugged, goes to jail for jaywalking, and has to watch his mugger walk by every single day having been a jerkass himself either.

I can understand cutting stuff like Nichijou, Haruhi, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica, but some other titles here fall nothing short of this trope. Sadist Show: Exactly What It Says on the Tin: Something you watch because you thoroughly enjoy watching the main character (if not the entire cast) suffer all kinds of shit, deservedly or otherwise.

Yes, but that's only have the trope. It also says that the characters are generally unlikable enough you want to see them suffer.

You know... first time I read the description of this trope, I thought this was a duplicate of Kafka Komedy, since it pretty much have the same premise.

I think redefining either tropes should come first...

Is half the trope (as explicated by ) tropeable on its own? If so, a split may be a possible solution.

@30: That distinction really seems like a The Same, but More Specific one. I would just specify that both can apply in the description.

I assume it's generally when both are the case.

edited 24th Dec '13 8:20:14 PM by shoboni

Clock is set.

Oh Gawd, this trope...

If you ask me, it needs to be junked. There's a host of Unfortunate Implications in the idea that people who watch these shows do it simply to see people being abused, especially if there's more to them than that...

Crowner, then? There seem to be multiple options in play here.

Yeah, because my personal preference is to try and lump it with a similar trope that was discussed here than go nuclear and delete the entire trope.

If that's your only issue a rename would suffice.

Yes, a rename would suffice.

I'd also support a tightening of the definition of the trope, given that so many of the entries are just "Waaah! The people in this show are mean to this character!" You know, we can laugh at a character getting screwed over by the world, a la Charlie Brown, and sympathize with him. It isn't just laughing at them, we can also laugh with them.

The clock here is long up. Locking for inactivity.