SOPA: The Return: The Revenge: The Return of the Revenge: The Sequel

Link. Here We Go Again!.

It's just baffling to me that some people are just so determined to see this borderline first-amendment-violating piece of legislation go through. Absolutely everybody else in the entire country, besides maybe the super-rich recording artists who act like five-year-olds over being slightly less super-rich due to piracy, thinks this is a horrible idea.

edited 7th Aug '13 6:06:22 PM by Midna

Uh, why DIDN'T you put this in the existing thread?

Same as usual.... Wing it.

Well a Mod had to open this, so that means somebody's approved.

Anyways, on to the topic... what this new attempt probably means is that somebody's heavily lobbying the group who keep reviving it, but you'd think even the backers would've gotten the message by now.

I'm tempted to say the typical "ITS TEH BIG BAD EVIL CORPORATE INTERESTS!!!11", but for some reason I'm getting the vibe that this issue is continuing for some other reason.

This is the old thread. I do not know if that should be continued or if we should go with this.

Albeit, this seems to be specifically about SOPA, not just Copyrights and such.

I can sorta agree about this thread's creation. I mean, we need more focus on the idiocy behind this bill.

Same as usual.... Wing it.

Hollywood hates new medias they don't control (Hence the charging by head over a certain amount for the X-Box One), likes Royalties (see above), and is paranoid about piracy. And they get a bunch of old men who barely use the internet and new media (if at all), to write these laws up.

It will subside with time. All new technologies have this. People flipped out over the VCR.

My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.

Hell, it was worse with the VCR, as some company or other sued to just try to get it (actually think they were suing against Betamax) outlawed altogether or something. To my knowledge, no-one sued for the suspension of the internet altogether.

I think even the super-rich recording artists who act like five-year-olds over being slightly less super-rich due to piracy might have standards against that. Or at least the ones who care.

Isn't it mostly the execs who get filthy rich, and most bands are actually get more money out of concerts than the actual C Ds and M P3s?

And I heard some artists don't get anything from digital purchase, because their publishers made it count as "advertising" on their contracts. I've got nothing official about that however, so of course this should be taken with a pinch of grains of salt.

edited 11th Aug '13 1:41:40 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

Anything is possible at this point. And it's not unheard of that the red tape bars any money from reaching the ones who actually did the work. I've heard that in Japan, Lantis treats their artists exactly that.

Anyhow, I think this thread is better named as SOPA Revengeance

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http://geekphilosopher.tumblr.com/post/58617645704/the-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-and-why-it

Reblogged this on my Tumblr, a lot of links to follow up on and fight this stuff.

Hell Hasn't Earned My Tears

I've heard that's also a reason artists like to do Anime Theme Songs — they actually get paid.

Keep Rolling On

eh, the beauty of senate obstructionism would likely stop the TPP. At least, i would certainly hope so.

I seriously doubt that this will get passed. You remember last time when The Other Wiki blacked out their site in protest? That got people's attention. I'm sure that politicians care more about the common good and happiness rather than money from 1%er recording artists...oh wait...

They do however fear the possibility of not being reelected even more, especially if they don't have a cushy job lined up.

Given the rate of revolving-door jobs for politicians leaving office, expect them to have at least ten cushy jobs lined up with the people that lobbied them.

edited 18th Aug '13 4:02:31 PM by Pykrete

But none that are as cushy as their spot as a politic.

Actually, there are lots of post-political jobs as lobbyists or executives they can pick up that probably pay more and remove the worry of getting voted out next term.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.

Okay I'm gonna state some facts. So let me start by saying. I Fricking Hate SOPA!!! Now that I've established that I'm not a straw man let begin with the facts.

• The whole bill is not getting revived (even the Government isn't that stupid) Only the part abut making steaming cover and copyrighed videos a felony (So far. the bill might go From Bad to Worse Here).
• The proposal has been voted down twice now (I'm not sure if the ACTA defeat counts or not).
• Even if the bill would get passed. How will it be enforced? We have Closets with more space than our prisons, and unless the police absolutely think New Media Are Evil, there is no way that they would arrest someone just for streaming a video.
• The white house petition has around 13% of the signature needed last I checked.

tl;Dr It's very unlikely that the bill will be enforced, but that dosen't men that it will have negative impact. It might be a first step towards the Police States of America. Also sites like Youtube would ether move overseas or shutdown in response.

edited 23rd Aug '13 8:01:45 PM by MorningStar1337

Who's bright idea is it to treat people who upload a video of a baby dancing to a barely audible song in the same regards as murderers and terrorists?

Corrupt Corporate Executives?

edited 23rd Aug '13 8:25:08 PM by MorningStar1337

The MIAA and RIAA (The Movie and Music Industries). Reminder, their representatives are the ones who have effectively gone:

"I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone."

edited 23rd Aug '13 8:26:20 PM by PotatoesRock

Welp, there goes my faith in humanity.