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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#1: Jul 6th 2013 at 3:43:21 PM

Not really liking the current image, but we need ideas for what to replace it with. I've got one brewing in mind, but that takes work.

A few panels (like panel 2) from this Skyrim comic might work....

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#2: Jul 6th 2013 at 3:44:39 PM

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#3: Jul 6th 2013 at 4:28:58 PM

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EDIT: had to resize from 400 to 350. Anyone else notice that the Image Uploader doesn't let you drag and drop anymore? I think I'll take that to Bug Report. See here.

EDIT 2: Added caption

edited 6th Jul '13 10:08:03 PM by Rethkir

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#4: Jul 6th 2013 at 7:17:32 PM

[up] I had an example in mind but that's brilliant.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5: Jul 6th 2013 at 8:14:18 PM

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand 3 is perfect.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Jul 6th 2013 at 10:24:13 PM

I don't like it. I kinda doubt he was in that position when he got hit.

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#7: Jul 6th 2013 at 11:02:35 PM

Seems great to me.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#8: Jul 7th 2013 at 12:26:48 AM

It didn't make sense until I started reading the page, but that image seems to be just what the page is referring to. The current looks like it didn't understand the concept. The hitbox is supposed to be around her, isn't it?

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#9: Jul 7th 2013 at 1:13:53 AM

I like 3.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10: Jul 7th 2013 at 1:35:28 AM

[up][up]For cases where the hitbox is larger than the character, yes, not when it's smaller.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#11: Jul 7th 2013 at 1:49:33 AM

^^^ The current is an example of a hitbox being too small, and the suggestion is an example of a hitbox being too big.

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#12: Jul 7th 2013 at 1:53:05 AM

I like the current very much, but Rethkir's suggestion is just as good.

Duck: I think that he's reacting to being hit.

Lexicon: The hitbox can be much larger than her, much smaller than her, partly inside and partly outside of her in an illogical fashion.... As long as it's dissonant.

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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#13: Jul 7th 2013 at 2:12:16 AM

I think the current is good but 3 illustrates the trope a bit better by showing the hitbox as an outline around the character being hit. My vote (pending other suggestions) goes to 3.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#14: Jul 7th 2013 at 2:22:26 AM

[up][up]Which is my point. If he's reacting, he's not in the same position as when he got hit.

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#15: Jul 7th 2013 at 2:27:03 AM

I don't feel that changes a lot, there. Geometrically, it still doesn't look like he was actually hit; only his hitbox was.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#16: Jul 7th 2013 at 2:44:29 AM

I've had the same problem with timing on other images, and it just breaks them for me. I don't really care for either image, though.

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peasant Since: Mar, 2011
#17: Jul 7th 2013 at 6:28:50 AM

My vote goes to 3.

The problem with the current is that all it shows is a person getting stabbed numerous times - with Major Injury Underreaction, Clothing Damage and bloodied weapons to boot - with the character in question reassuring someone that they all missed her hitbox; without telling us what a hitbox is. Meaning, if we don't know what a "hitbox" is (e.g. if we haven't read the article), then we wouldn't know what we're looking. Worse, it's potentially misleading since the character clearly got hit and has suffered some effects from it; namely the aforementioned blood and damaged clothes.

Conversely, 3 pretty clearly shows a quite literal hitbox with the character reacting upon getting hit within the square. [tup] to 3.

edited 7th Jul '13 6:30:43 AM by peasant

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#18: Jul 7th 2013 at 10:49:14 AM

Seems like no matter how perfect a page image is, somebody will object to it for some reason. [tup] for 3.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#19: Jul 7th 2013 at 11:46:23 AM

Seems like no matter what one objects to, someone will always whine about it.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#20: Jul 7th 2013 at 1:06:36 PM

For 3, it's clear that he's hit in the hitbox and not on his body because of the hit effect (that should really be a trope). I didn't think it was the most ideal image, but it was the best I could find. It's certainly better than the current, which is misleading for reasons already stated and doesn't even show a hitbox.

edited 7th Jul '13 1:43:22 PM by Rethkir

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#21: Jul 7th 2013 at 1:36:15 PM

[tup] for three.

The graphic affect shows that the attacker's effectivly hit mid air, yet since it's within the hitbox, the defender's hit.

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#22: Jul 7th 2013 at 7:34:58 PM

Honestly, Duck, I think you're being way too strict with your analysis on this one. We've got enough consensus to run with the pic; it's up and tagged. I didn't put up the caption that was with it; thoughts?

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#23: Jul 7th 2013 at 7:51:40 PM

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#24: Jul 7th 2013 at 8:43:45 PM

"No touch touche"?

edited 7th Jul '13 8:43:57 PM by Larkmarn

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#25: Jul 7th 2013 at 8:49:58 PM

[up][up]It's just a personal opinion, and I'm perfectly aware that other don't see it the way I do. I don't see what the big deal is. But it's not an analysis. That's precisely what it isn't. It's a gut reaction. Instant Fridge Logic, if you will.

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10th Jul '13 6:05:41 AM

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