First off: I like this trope. A lot. The basic trope seems to be "the viewer holds characters on-screen accountable for information that's only available to the viewer." That's a great Audience Reaction trope, and yet the page isn't thriving. Four examples. Two of the four examples are just plain Genre Blindness (most of the Horror movie one is Genre Blindness, and all of the Juno one, since Juno actually does see pretty much everything the audience does, the difference being she's a 16 year old girl). Nine wicks, only five of which are actually articles. I think part of the reason is the tremendously generic name. Viewer Myopia really could mean almost any kind of myopic response, and certainly sounds synonymous to Fan Myopia. I think a rename and then some crosswicking could do this a lot of good, as well as clean up the description (since it sort of rambles to make its point).
It's something that happens a lot or sounds like it should happen a lot. The name is poor too. I support renaming. The trope is the "historian's mistake" as applied to works of fiction. More information is in the description for Artistic License - History. The description potholes the knowledge of future events to Omniscient Morality License, though that's In-Universe examples.
edited 20th Jun '13 8:13:36 AM by MikuruFan
Puʻu ʻŌʻōAlso, that description needs to start off with the description, not with an Example as a Thesis.
Yeah, the Example as a Thesis threw me off a little.
This page looks like it has great potential. I support a rename.
Yeah, that's sort of what I meant when I said "it rambles." Sorry for being unclear. The connection to Omniscient Morality License occurred to me, but I didn't know exactly what the connection is.
ZzzzzzzzzzDid a quick fix: Chopped the Example As Thesis and split the sentence defining the trope into its own (opening) paragraph. No time to do more on it right now...
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
Puʻu ʻŌʻōAre we ready for a rename crowner?
Definitely needs one, but for the life of me I can't think of anything good.
Gentleman Troper!I'm not sure why this is YMMV; wouldn't it be an Audience Reaction? This clearly has nothing to do with our 'myopia' line of snowclones, so I agree with renaming. In the spirit of brainstorming, let me offer Viewers Have More Information or Characters Cant Read The Script
edited 23rd Jun '13 2:02:56 PM by Spark9
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōYeah, I would shift the indexes. One problem with this Audience Reaction is that it lends itself poorly to concrete examples.
I kind of think this doesn't need examples at all.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōIt will need something though. A list of affected tropes, for one.
With Mod Hat OnGAH! I got holler posts confused...disregard the clock. The requested crowner is hooked.
edited 24th Jun '13 6:03:24 AM by Willbyr
Puʻu ʻŌʻōThanks for the response, mistake nonwithstanding, though.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōVotes bump. We are at 10-0 for a rename.
I read the trope description, and it reminded me of an effect that I've been told appears in some Real Life people with autism. It's called a theory of mind deficit or mind-blindness. Look at the Sally-Anne test, developed by the Baron-Cohen who didn't play that character from Fake Kazakhstan, and tell me it isn't this trope. Therefore, I propose Viewer Mind Blindness because it uses a pre-existing term. Excuse me for a moment while I add Sally-Anne to the article's real-life section.
edited 11th Jul '13 6:12:41 AM by DamianYerrick
Puʻu ʻŌʻōWhile that name seems to be "accurate", the fact that I had to look it up on Wikipedia isn't a sign that it will be easy to understand.
Item #2 in the lead of this page uses Wuxia as an example of an accurate yet opaque title. Might it too need a rename once a slot opens?
Puʻu ʻŌʻōNo, because that's a genre that's named exactly that.
Wuxia is a term most people with any more familiarity with the subject than "knowing Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon exists" know, and there really isn't an English equivalent. Anyhoo, onto this subject... Viewer Based Morality? Viewer Morality License?
Puʻu ʻŌʻōThis isn't just about morality, though.
the it-thingyAudience Projection? Or is that too broad? Audience Advantage? (Audience Apprehension Advantage?)
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