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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#1: Jun 13th 2013 at 2:24:09 AM

http://denverskeptics.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/lotr-as-science-fiction/ The possible ideas from this one blog post are endless, IMO. The consequences and reasons for creating elves, hobbits, orcs and dwarves (I could see creating those for industrial purposes, but why would Elves be created?) What are everyone thoughts on this interpretation?

edited 13th Jun '13 3:38:31 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#2: Jun 13th 2013 at 3:47:00 PM

bump

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#3: Jun 13th 2013 at 6:36:32 PM

One does not simply make this meme Cyberpunk, my friend.

Sorry. I had to.

edited 13th Jun '13 6:38:18 PM by AnimeBadger

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#4: Jun 13th 2013 at 7:39:59 PM

Hm. I take it you've read the Silmarillion? There's at least an element of genetic manipulation in the creation of orcs and trolls from elves and Ents, respectively. Although, correct me if I'm wrong, these ideas hadn't yet entered the SF mainstream when Tolkien wrote his works, no?

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#5: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:02:57 PM

Wrong forum, I think.

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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#6: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:32:01 PM

[up] [up] Yeah, and think how awesome a cyberpunk/post-apocalyptic LOTR would be!

edited 13th Jun '13 8:32:29 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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#7: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:33:54 PM

Problem with that kind of thing is, why not nuke Mordor?

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#8: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:47:57 PM

Because nuclear holocaust and massive damage to the rest of the world was a real life concern, and would be in science fiction as well.

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#9: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:49:00 PM

Who says that Sauron is vulnerable to nukes?

MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#10: Jun 13th 2013 at 9:01:26 PM

[up] I was thinking, "because Sauron would nuke our heroes. Prolonged war." Just hope I don't make my Aragorn expy too angsty. His name is actually Aneirin Einarsson (has a similar meaning to Aragorn and three of the same letters as Aragorn's other name Elessar) and in his backstory, his mother married the half-elven lord.

edited 13th Jun '13 9:23:30 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#11: Jun 13th 2013 at 9:11:14 PM

Thing is, if Sauron had nukes he would use them, regardless.

He's evil, after all.

edited 13th Jun '13 9:11:30 PM by IraTheSquire

MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#12: Jun 13th 2013 at 9:26:55 PM

[up] Yeah, in that case it would be acceptable...only it mightn't work.

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#13: Jun 13th 2013 at 9:36:38 PM

How do the Valar factor in?

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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#14: Jun 13th 2013 at 10:43:02 PM

[up] Maybe as Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane helper figures occasionally?

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#15: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:59:48 AM

Maybe the Ring could be the activation key for Sauron's nukes.

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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#17: Jun 14th 2013 at 6:46:33 PM

@Jimmy: That reminds me of a game I got to play when I went to school camp involving orienteering and destroying a nuclear reactor.

edited 14th Jun '13 8:04:56 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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#18: Jun 15th 2013 at 12:42:20 PM

Orienteering is vital when destroying a nuclear reactor. Without it you won't even know where the reactor is.

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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
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#19: Jun 15th 2013 at 4:00:13 PM

[up] LOL. We had to do it in teams.

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