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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#26: Jun 10th 2013 at 7:37:53 AM

That still sounds more like "Magical Bullet" to me.

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Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#27: Jun 10th 2013 at 12:16:19 PM

I support Projectile Spell or Spells Are Bullets. Putting "line of sight" makes it sound like it's transmitted through eye contact or it's impossible to cast the spell with your eyes closed.

The D&D term for this would be Magic Ray, which could also work.

edited 10th Jun '13 12:30:10 PM by Prime32

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#28: Jun 10th 2013 at 12:43:34 PM

[up]Magic Ray to me sounds like it's some sort of constant, wide-spread beam. Good point on Line Of Sight Spell.

Spells Are Bullets works.

edited 10th Jun '13 12:44:02 PM by Larkmarn

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#29: Jun 10th 2013 at 12:44:27 PM

We could also use D&D's technical term line of effect. Perhaps Line Of Effect Spellcasting?

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#30: Jun 10th 2013 at 12:47:56 PM

Magic Ray needs proof that it can't turn before I accept it. The Line Of Effect thing is good for me.

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DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#31: Jun 10th 2013 at 5:13:23 PM

Well, if the definition is to be "magic that moves in a straight line," then Linear Magic would be accurate and not overly wordy.

Would probably need a whole new description to go along with it, though. At least as far as I can tell the current pretty much says "magic projectile that can be dodged." It doesn't specifically exclude guided projectiles, either.

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#32: Jun 10th 2013 at 6:04:40 PM

And we probably need to split off the trope for "spell = Frickin' Laser Beams" since that's what most of the misuse is.

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#33: Jun 11th 2013 at 12:05:20 AM

Again, it isn't just about line of effect (which just requires an unobstructed line to your target). It is about the spell visibly shooting towards its target in a way that can, at least theoretically, be dodged.

A spell that where a witch snaps her fingers and suddenly the prince turns into a frog is not this trope even if she has to see the prince (or "have effect" to him) to do that. This trope is where the witch points her finger, and a green dart shoots out, and the prince turns into a frog when hit by the dart.

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#34: Jun 11th 2013 at 5:42:25 AM

I'm leaning towards Spells Are Bullets at this point.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#35: Jun 11th 2013 at 8:26:13 AM

[up][up] Which is why I mentioned this trope has two parts. FLB should probably be linked, since the two really are related.

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#36: Jun 11th 2013 at 9:18:16 AM

Ballistic Magic Missile. Since the main point is that it's not homing or an "instant" effect that just happens.

edited 11th Jun '13 9:18:53 AM by Clarste

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#38: Jun 11th 2013 at 1:19:34 PM

Well, it was supposed to be a pun, but that certainly rolls off the tongue better.

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#39: Jun 11th 2013 at 1:24:05 PM

If it's necessary that the spell not only be line-of-sight, but also be a visible bolt or beam, this sounds like Spells Have Tracers, frankly.

edited 11th Jun '13 1:26:40 PM by Madrugada

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#42: Jun 11th 2013 at 3:28:04 PM

Spells Have Tracers seems good. Tracer Spell sounds like a magic equivalent of a Tracker/Bug.

Here's a few more:

Dodgeable Spellcasting

Dodge The Spell

Sidestep The Spell

Dodge The Magic Ray

Ricochet Ray, (edit: or Magical Ricochet Ray)

Dispell By Dodge

edited 11th Jun '13 3:28:54 PM by crazysamaritan

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#43: Jun 11th 2013 at 4:00:11 PM

I think that the word tracer is more closely associated with tracking than a bullet visualisation aid. I also think that's sort of implied by magic behaving like a bullet, considering Power Glows.

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#45: Jun 11th 2013 at 7:02:23 PM

What snowclone? And why make the name more universal than the trope is by saying "every"?

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#46: Jun 11th 2013 at 7:32:21 PM

It's a snowclone of Every Bullet is a Tracer. The tropes have very little to do with each other, though, so it's definitely not a good snowclone.

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#47: Jun 11th 2013 at 7:46:13 PM

The essence of the trope isn't that it's visible (though it's certainly a necessary side-effect), it's that the spell manifests as a physical object that must be aimed. I believe the name should focus on that above anything else.

I personally like Ballistic Magic.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#48: Jun 11th 2013 at 7:59:05 PM

"Ballistic" has a few meanings, though, and I'm not sure if what I think it is is what you think it is.

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#49: Jun 11th 2013 at 10:41:12 PM

Well, the word does have a couple meanings. It can mean "go ballistic", though that's an informal use and I don't think it's the first thing you think of here.

More scientifically, ballistics is basically about projectile trajectories. In fiction, unless it's specifically the point, like with artillery and some snipers, bullets go straight. But honestly, if the magic is affected by gravity, I'm not sure that would discount it. I don't think that goes against the spirit of the trope. It's about magic taking a physical form that travels unguided to the target.

I'm also not sure a guided spell would be against the spirit of the trope either. It may be impossible to dodge (or not), but you can shield against it, or simply outrun it.

edited 11th Jun '13 10:47:41 PM by AnotherDuck

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RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
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#50: Jun 12th 2013 at 12:31:49 AM

What about Spell Shooting?

edited 12th Jun '13 12:32:13 AM by RavenWilder

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