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NewGeekPhilosopher Wizard Basement from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2009
Wizard Basement
#1: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:24:51 AM

Because I was spat out by any real subculture worth its salt I'd want to be a member of, notably even nerds on forums spat me out after a while which is why I ended up here because I had nowhere else to go, and goths, well, I was shoved physically by a goth who was offended when I asked him whether he was enjoying the Fruits Basket manga he was reading. I've not had a very good run being included with large groups of supposedly like minded people, so my attitude towards subculture as a whole is very Fox and the Grapes. I keep hearing they offer something awesome but whenever I try to go near a subculture or even a fandom their behaviour towards me ends up ruining things like Game Of Thrones whose fans openly mocked me for not "getting" GOT at first and when my computer crashed and I was offline for a while, they laughed and decreed it the Punishment of the Old Gods or something. Yeah... I've been turned off GOT because I know how mean its fans can be. Considering the core themes of the series I shouldn't have been surprised.

Lately I've been looking up a lot of Insane Clown Posse videos on Youtube because I'm both fascinated and mystified how a singular hip hop group warranted a subculture unto itself, and why people devoted their lives to the philosophies and espousings of evil clown costumed men who wear hatchet pendants.

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Cata Damn Fine Troper from Nottingham, UK Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Damn Fine Troper
#2: Jun 5th 2013 at 1:40:30 AM

Maybe you've simply been unlucky, and have been interacting with the more extreme members of said fandoms? Most fans of things aren't that horrible, being as they are normal folk.

"Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen."
NewGeekPhilosopher Wizard Basement from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2009
Wizard Basement
#3: Jun 5th 2013 at 1:57:15 AM

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Worse, my own brother caught me listening to Fun's Some Nights and proceeded to prepare to punch me in the balls so I couldn't reproduce and spread my "terrible taste in music" despite my only having heard that song once that exact moment, and he assured me that I was "wasting my precious lifetime" on "shit like this". Yeah... You can see why I come to these conclusions.

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MrMallard wak from Australia, mate Since: Oct, 2010
wak
#4: Jun 5th 2013 at 2:14:01 AM

Your brother sounds like a shithead, tbh.

I fully get the fandom/subculture thing. I used to track the Kataang tag on Tumblr, but the shit-flinging and inter-ship blaming and hate was absolutely repulsive. I've only returned for a look today.

Final Fantasy apparently has a big, bad fanbase - and I have seen some aspects of that, but it looks to me that they've chilled out a tiny bit recently in this interim between games.

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DamascaRamza There's always another secret. from Australia Since: Jul, 2011
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#5: Jun 5th 2013 at 2:26:37 AM

Your brother needs to be forever banned from procreating. Preferably a few minutes ago. And every fandom has it's assholes who should be forever banned from the internet and fandoms they're part of. Don't let them discourage you because they're bastards.

edited 5th Jun '13 2:27:09 AM by DamascaRamza

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#6: Jun 5th 2013 at 2:32:02 AM

Maybe he was joking? Seems like one of my exaggerations, without the ball punching though. I always mess with my cousin devoted fanlove of One Direction. Normally I would not bat an eye, but said cousin is 20.

Then again, when I am joking I make sure everyone knows I am joking.

edited 5th Jun '13 2:32:33 AM by ElRigo

NewGeekPhilosopher Wizard Basement from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2009
Wizard Basement
#7: Jun 5th 2013 at 2:54:48 AM

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He did say he was joking but balled fists near my junk can't be called a laughing matter after the fact to save face. My gonads are Serious Business.

There was a time when I bought a One Direction CD and I got retweeted/replied to by Harry from 1D once, but those days are long over. Their new album just wasn't as good as the first.

What happened to boy bands, they're not as good as the ones we had as a kid. We had real manufactured pop music back then.

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Cata Damn Fine Troper from Nottingham, UK Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Damn Fine Troper
#8: Jun 5th 2013 at 3:00:20 AM

Still like a bit of N Sync - Pop :3

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TopographicOcean A Pathetic from the colo Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm Clockwork and she's Quartz
A Pathetic
#9: Jun 5th 2013 at 3:02:05 AM

I like U2's Pop. [lol]

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Rosvo1 Since: Aug, 2009
#10: Jun 5th 2013 at 3:02:28 AM

Cata: YOU SHALL BE BURNED IN THE FIRES OF OBLIVION, HERETIC!

edited 5th Jun '13 3:02:44 AM by Rosvo1

ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#11: Jun 5th 2013 at 3:19:05 AM

... real manufactured pop music? Dear god, I can't... my liver is gonna explode.

Yeah, never been a fan of pop. Specially not the kind that comes prepackaged.

Cata Damn Fine Troper from Nottingham, UK Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Damn Fine Troper
#12: Jun 5th 2013 at 3:22:55 AM

@ Rosvo; BURN ME DOWN AND I WILL BECOME MORE POPPY THAN YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE

LIKE POPCORN

(I'm actually into post-hardcore and screamo nowadays, but damn if people like N Sync and Five didn't produce some catchy ass songs)

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#13: Jun 5th 2013 at 3:35:44 AM

I'm pretty sure the torch has been passed to South Korea for catchy-ass boyband music.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#14: Jun 5th 2013 at 4:47:31 AM

Depends on where you live. Most people I know wouldn't touch K-Pop with a ten-foot-pole. And curious, did your brother actually hit you?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Alma The Harbinger of Strange from Coruscant Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The Harbinger of Strange
#15: Jun 5th 2013 at 5:56:35 AM

Subcultures can be terrible... Nerds some of the worst among them. You would think that a bunch of social outcasts would, upon finding each other, form a group for the sake of companionship and decency and get along, but no, they just have different reasons for maligning one another, like one guy prefers Marvel to DC or the other way around.

You need an adult.
Cata Damn Fine Troper from Nottingham, UK Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Damn Fine Troper
#16: Jun 5th 2013 at 6:11:41 AM

Could it be a case of the outcasts reveling too much in their new-found importance in their respective fandoms, and therefore feel the need to keep themselves feeling superior by making others feel inferior?

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Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#17: Jun 5th 2013 at 6:13:01 AM

And so we discovered the secret behind the success of the internet.

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Cata Damn Fine Troper from Nottingham, UK Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Damn Fine Troper
#18: Jun 5th 2013 at 6:47:21 AM

Despite the negative comments in the thread thus far, I'd still argue for the bringing together of fans that the internet has provided, being a great thing overall.

"Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen."
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#19: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:11:20 AM

The inernet is pretty cool guy.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Fulcanelli Little Laguz Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Less than three
Little Laguz
#20: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:10:58 AM

[up]Aye, that he is.

Even with the bad he brings out in people, he still brings people together that like the same things for better or worse.

On the topic of your brother though, he sounds like kind of a jerk for doing that. Even if it was a joke, it went too far in my opinion with the almost-ball-punch.

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Catfish42 Bloody Fossil from world´s favourite country. Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#21: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:47:10 AM

I have nothing useful to contribute to this discussion and only wish to express that I managed to correctly guess the OP before clicking the thread.

edited 5th Jun '13 8:47:43 AM by Catfish42

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0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
Just awesome like that
#22: Jun 5th 2013 at 11:50:23 AM

/Worse, my own brother caught me listening to Fun's Some Nights and proceeded to prepare to punch me in the balls so I couldn't reproduce and spread my "terrible taste in music" despite my only having heard that song once that exact moment, and he assured me that I was "wasting my precious lifetime" on "shit like this". Yeah... You can see why I come to these conclusions.
Your brother has horrible taste in music and should feel bad.

Also sorry about your balls.

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NewGeekPhilosopher Wizard Basement from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2009
Wizard Basement
#23: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:23:54 PM

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What are you implying about me sir?

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Even worse, my brother just offloaded his Chris Brown F.A.M.E album on me because he knows I like to get offloaded with his ironic handmedowns. Though I have to wonder why he had that CD in the first place.

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Bellacide trigger warning: bitch from Texashire Since: Apr, 2012
trigger warning: bitch
#24: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:27:40 PM

That you seem to make long-winded threads about your problems.

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TopographicOcean A Pathetic from the colo Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm Clockwork and she's Quartz
A Pathetic
#25: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:27:44 PM

[up][up][up] I can't say I like Some Nights myself. [lol]

That said, giving anyone actual shit for their listening habits is pretty stupid.

Your brother has issues, NGP.

edited 5th Jun '13 12:27:56 PM by TopographicOcean

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