Ambiguous Name (Titles Crowner 7/6): Sic Em

Needs more votes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

12 yes and 1 no for Villain Ordering Shot. I think Villain Order Scene would make more sense.

edited 3rd Oct '13 6:56:57 PM by MikuruFan

Honestly, neither of those names are comprehensible to me whatsoever, but I can't think of anything right now.

In the meantime, should we repurpose this name into a Stock Phrase page? Could be useful, considering the ubiquity of the phrase in media.

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I do not think that we can make pages for stock phrases under policy.

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Hm. I disagree with the policy, but fine, if that's that, that's that.

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I did think against it too, the site being called Television Tropes & Idioms, but seeing how many Stock Phrases were just created because they appeared in multiple works did come off as chairsy to me.

I mean, if it were up to me, they would just be simple, example-free pages to discuss the phrase's meaning and origins, but I suppose this is neither the time nor place to be discussing that, is it?

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Agreed.

edited 5th Oct '13 4:59:26 PM by MikuruFan

Giving this a bump...the leader has consensus to call, but it feels really clunky to me and sounds like the villain's asking for tequila.

"Ordering" seems to be the word that bothers me, but makes the name passable for everyone else. At 13:2

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Also: Fast Eddie Has A Huge Penis? Huh?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Dealt with that.

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My problems with "Villain Ordering Shot":

1. The word "shot". This is a scene, not a single image the camera is focusing on.

2. The lack of an object. "Order" is a transitive verb; you wouldn't use the sentence "The villain orders." (Unless you're talking about placing an order in a restaurant.)

Dispatching The Minions Scene?

edited 28th Oct '13 8:13:52 PM by MonaNaito

The Star Successor example is correct by the way, might need more elaboration if the trope is renamed though.

Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack

Votes bump!

• Sic Em Scene: 7-3 yea/nay.
• Villain Ordering Shot: 14-5 yea/nay.

All else in red.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I honestly don't like any of the name suggestions, but I can't think of anything better myself. I think the current name is relatively clear (at least, clearer than the suggestions; I don't know what "Villain Ordering Shot" is supposed to imply—a villain goes to a bar and orders a shot of whiskey?), but not much that can be done about that I suppose. I can't think of a way to shorten "Villain Orders His Henchmen To Kill The Hero".

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Since this was pretty much deadlocked, I've hooked a runoff crowner between the two options that were in the green.

Votes bump!

• Sic Em Scene is at 4-1 yea/nay.

All else in red.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I really don't like Sic Em Scene. Still sounds like the villain (well, not even the villain. Someone) is siccing something on someone else while there.

It just seems very weird to use "Sic 'Em" unless the person is actually there. Which is part of the reason this was misused in the first place.

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Another votes bump.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

... Sic Sic 'Em in the name, getting the "Sic 'Em right here right now" vibe on it too.
how about Murder Mission For A Mook or Hero Annihilation Order Scene (damn that's long...) or Slay The Hero Order Scene?

edited 18th Jan '14 6:27:12 AM by ShanghaiSlave

Is dast der Zerstorer? Odar die Schopfer?

I think shortening it to just Slay The Hero Scene would be better in that case. What do you guys think about Stop The Hero For Me or Slay The Hero For Me? Or if that's too stock-phrasey maybe Send Out The Mooks? If the last one doesn't specify enough that it's after they've already been defeated once, Mook Resending Scene could also work.

edited 9th Feb '14 6:30:55 AM by Druplesnubb

I kinda like one of the new suggestions — Murder Mission for a Mook. It expresses well several aspects — the big bad wants somebody of his minions to get the hero and the fact that the hero is not right in the scene when the order is given.

Mook's Murder Mission?

edited 18th Mar '14 8:05:53 AM by Willbyr

Hey, that ain't bad.