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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#9876: Apr 27th 2015 at 12:28:36 PM

No one knows what it's like, to be the bad girl, to be the sad girl—behind blue eyes.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#9877: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:03:02 PM

Ahh yes, the Nui hate train was real...which makes what happens to her extremely cathartic.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#9878: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:06:03 PM

Isn't hating her sort of the point? I guess it's a fine line between Love to Hate and actual hate for the character.

edited 27th Apr '15 1:06:38 PM by Cozzer

Demetrios Our Favorite Tsundere in Red from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#9880: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:07:57 PM

[up][up]Oh no I genuinely hate her as a character.

She screams Villain Sue to me.

edited 27th Apr '15 1:08:20 PM by ultimatepheer

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#9881: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:09:47 PM

Well yea, that's what I was referring to. Most of the hate just stems from her being a loathsome person, not necessarily a terribly written character.

Of course, the line tends to be blurred a few times.

Oh, speaking of[up]

edited 27th Apr '15 1:10:45 PM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#9882: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:19:33 PM

I don't understand how she can be a Villain Sue, considering that in the end she gets utterly humiliated and defeated and that all of her previous victories were basically meant to make you enjoy her utter humiliation and defeat more. Still, I guess that's the point of the YMMV tag.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#9883: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:22:33 PM

She looked like an invulnerable Sue until that point.

I think it was worth it; made it all the more satisfying to finally see that troll snap.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#9884: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:24:59 PM

I don't even get how she qualifies as any sort of sue, nothing she does contradicts anything or is ridiculously out there for the plot.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#9885: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:27:21 PM

Dude, the first thing she does is nonchalantly defeat a transformed three-star goku uniform with her pinkie finger, and otherwise act like she's exempt of physics.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#9886: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:36:33 PM

But isn't a sue a character that is insufferable because the author doesn't realize it? She's insufferable because the author wants you to feel joy when she eventually gets disarmed, snaps and then gets defeated again.

Demetrios Our Favorite Tsundere in Red from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#9888: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:40:05 PM

[up][up][up] So does that make the entire Worf Effect trope a qualifier for suedom :V

Besides, we did get a reason later on why she's so overpowered.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#9889: Apr 27th 2015 at 1:42:20 PM

we got one fairly soon after she was introduced when we found out she was a tailor.

given that clothing is a symbol of power in KLK it's not a stretch to think tailors would be super badass. the point was to make satsuki and her elite four look like children playing dress-up.

of course after that we get a more specific explanation explaining what exactly she is and it makes even more sense.

edited 27th Apr '15 1:44:21 PM by wehrmacht

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#9890: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:00:51 PM

Mako's too funny and awesome to be {{The Scrappy}. As for Nui, while I disagree with the complaints about her being a Villain Sue, I can see why people find her to be one, and the fact that she died on her own terms instead losing horribly in death doesn't help {Sure, Ryuko pretty much made Nui's sacrifice for Ragyo pointless, but it's not like Nui will ever know that}.

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#9891: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:03:18 PM

[up]The Scrappy is a YMMV trope for a reason.

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#9892: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:03:53 PM

Ragyo also died on her own terms.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Hoki Since: Nov, 2011
#9893: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:16:01 PM

Hate Sink would best describe Nui's character. She's there to be hated, and it obviously worked.

I'm one of the few who actually like her though.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#9894: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:19:20 PM

I thought she was hot.

Until she snapped. Then she became ridiculous.

edited 27th Apr '15 2:20:04 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9895: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:21:06 PM

I was always slightly distracted by her intentionally Limited Animation.

I sure said that!
Demetrios Our Favorite Tsundere in Red from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#9897: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:23:23 PM

Her costume wasn't even that good looking.

Knee-high platform boots were never in style for a reason.

Hoki Since: Nov, 2011
#9898: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:25:09 PM

She's cute, I'd give her that. She's also kinda funny, what with her version of But for Me, It Was Tuesday being both really obnoxious and really ridiculous.

Demetrios Our Favorite Tsundere in Red from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Hoki Since: Nov, 2011
#9900: Apr 27th 2015 at 2:28:56 PM

[up] It's the unofficial "ruin a main character's life" day, popularized by M. Bison in the Street Fighter movie.


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