Does Not Illustrate: We Can Rule Together

Yeah, so, the page picture for We Can Rule Together just shows Vader standing there lookin' like a dork.

If the idea for the trope is a villain telling the hero that they can team up instead of fighting, shouldn't the hero at the very least be present in the picture? The picture caption even mentions Luke, but doesn't actually show him. The picture is totally devoid of significance. You can't look at this picture, devoid of prior knowledge of Star Wars and say "This is the part where the villain says 'We Can Rule Together!!!'"

The current picture◊.

Maybe this one would be better◊.

edited 12th Apr '13 2:45:23 PM by Eagal

The suggestion is a clear improvement over the current, but I'd like to see other suggestions.

Suggestion is definitely more clear than existing. Bonus points for sticking with the same source scene.

Suggestion is definitely better.

I was about to defend the current pic, but the suggestion is just better, so never mind.

So the only reason we are changing this image is because the hero is not in the picture? The way Darth Vader is gesturing is good enough and the proposed image is of lesser quality. Additionally, (just about) everyone knows this plot point of Star Wars.

Keep the current image.

edited 12th Apr '13 8:35:13 PM by EditorPallMall

The quality isn't so bad. I like the suggestion better. We don't have to use Star Wars though if any one has any other suggestions.

Image quality's fine, but if we're really that pressed, brightened (or de-yellowed) and 1920x1080◊.

edited 12th Apr '13 10:07:30 PM by ShadowHog

Everyone knows this plot point. And if they don't they should.

Isn't the idea behind images that they clearly represent the trope without having been exposed to the source?

Without context, this image could just as easily say "Give me the MacGuffin Crystal!" or "Take my hand if you want to live!" or even "I have a message from Colonel Mobouta! He says 'This is from Congo Jack!'"

edited 12th Apr '13 11:33:21 PM by Eagal

Even if you somehow don't know about Star Wars, Vader looks Obviously Evil, and Luke is in white so so its not a stretch that he's a good guy. Suggestion is good enough.

Just for another option, here's a classical◊ example.

Context for reference.

edited 13th Apr '13 12:05:45 AM by UltimatelySubjective

"Classic"/"example" is already used on Incorruptible Pure Pureness.

on OP suggestion.

edited 13th Apr '13 1:52:59 AM by m8e

It looks like good vs evil but the SW suggestion looks more like the trope.

I think the SW one mostly just looks like Vader offering to help Luke from falling down. It's passable within context of the page, though, and the suggestion is better than the current.

OP suggestion is better than current.

Egal, post 9: Well, in this case, everyone really, really does. But the point (mostly) remains (because there has to be someone out there living under a rock, despite the "everyone" I used).

The OP's suggestion is better than the current.

Even discounting the cave dwellers, one looks good, one looks evil, and the evil guy looks like he's beckoning to the good guy. That's good enough in my book, barring any better suggestions.

works for me.

If we must change this image because apparently Darth Vader offering his hand "is not good enough" (which, all things considered, even the cave dweller would understand what that image means) - fine. But the image proposed is very dark and requires you to squint your eyes to understand what is going on. If we must change the image, let it be of clearer quality.

edited 13th Apr '13 11:09:23 AM by EditorPallMall

I already suggested a cleaner version, dunno why everyone's missing it.

That's much much nicer. For me, your link gave (and gives) a 404, so I ignored it.

Not if you use the address bar.

Anyway, I like 20. 20 is very good.

It's so-so. Best of the suggestions, though.

I think it's good. Enough people remember this scene and this movie to get it even without being extra clear.

So what's the minimum needed votes for changin it

edited 15th Apr '13 11:37:16 AM by Eagal