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Ambiguous Name: Im Not Hungry get usage counts

 51 Rethkir, Tue, 6th Aug '13 11:56:57 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
As of now, all of the examples seem to be solely about food, as you'd imagine. However, a few of them are about hunger strikes:
Literature
  • In "The Fall of the Shell", Brudoer goes on a hunger strike until his family smuggles a note to his cell begging him to keep his strength up.

Live-Action TV
  • Malcolm in the Middle: Francis led his classmates in the military school into a hunger strike when their TV is confiscated. When the Commander was about to give in, he instead realized the hunger drove Francis unable to be good enough of a negotiator to turn down a ridiculous counter-proposition.
  • In Brazilian show "A Grande Família", there was one episode where Agostinho Carrara took a test for a Government job. When his family refused to believe he didn't buy an answer sheet, he went into a hunger strike that lasted until the results came and revealed he failed, thus proving his innocence. Arguably, he could have solved it earlier if he told them he only didn't buy because he and the man selling answer sheets didn't agree on a price.
    • In a later episode, his mother-in-law went into a hunger strike for unrelated reasons and it seemed people forgot Agostinho's previous one.

Western Animation
  • Goof Troop: Goofy and Pete were Wrongfully Accused and Goofy entered himself and Pete (against Pete's will) into a hunger strike.
  • The Simpsons: Inspired by Cesar Chavez's hunger strike, Homer Simpson of all people started one to expose the local baseball team's plan to move to Albuquerque. He chained himself next to the skeleton of someone who went into a hunger strike for a bathroom-related protest.

edited 7th Aug '13 7:12:43 PM by Rethkir

 52 Septimus Heap, Wed, 7th Aug '13 12:00:34 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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OK, I just propose to rename this and redefine it to Hunger Strike and split off a trope about being afraid of being poisoned. Any agreements/disagreements/opinions?

"rejection of hospitality as a protest against having been kidnapped." is not a Hunger Strike or fear of poison.
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 54 Septimus Heap, Wed, 7th Aug '13 12:21:26 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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That sounds like material for another trope.

 55 Rethkir, Wed, 7th Aug '13 12:51:55 AM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Sounds like this is going towards a split with "rejection of hospitality as a protest against having been kidnapped", which is not limited to food, and Hunger Strike. I think both tropes would need more examples. Perhaps they should go through YKTTW.

I agree with that.

 57 Native Jovian, Wed, 7th Aug '13 2:03:27 PM from Orlando, Florida
Bump. Defiant Captive is proposed to be split in the TRS thread for Badass Damsel, though it has little support. I think this trope will become Defiant Captive anyway if work goes through.

edited 26th Aug '13 11:32:58 AM by MikuruFan

 59 Rethkir, Mon, 26th Aug '13 3:32:21 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
So, do we need a crowner for this?

I'm seeing a lot of different opinions earlier in the discussion. I just don't know what's being proposed.

 61 Native Jovian, Mon, 26th Aug '13 4:49:27 PM from Orlando, Florida
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The current proposal is to split I'm Not Hungry into two tropes: one about refusing hospitality as a form of protest against being held captive (typically in a Gilded Cage), the other is Hunger Strike, refusing to eat as a form of nonviolent political protest.
That's the most recent proposal, and I support that.

There were earlier proposals however.

[up] I would also support those proposals.
 
 64 Rethkir, Wed, 28th Aug '13 12:53:31 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
 65 Willbyr, Wed, 28th Aug '13 1:09:52 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Split has 10 supports and no opposes.

It's likely that the trope Defiant Captive will be created from the Badass Damsel TRS. That should work as the second trope in the crowner.

The Badass Damsel Crowner has concluded and Defiant Captive will be created.
 
Weird, it's already created.

So, make that the second trope, I guess. The definitions match.

Crowner has 18 support and 0 oppose. Let's call this.

 70 Willbyr, Tue, 22nd Oct '13 1:02:23 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Calling for the split.
Based on the voting, I don't think we need to make a name crowner for Hunger Strike. The only thing left is making that trope, moving examples to the correct page, and a wick cleanup.
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Sounds good. [tup]

 73 Septimus Heap, Tue, 22nd Oct '13 11:45:08 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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The crowner already states Hunger Strike, so I'd be fine with that reading.

 74 Septimus Heap, Tue, 26th Nov '13 12:48:34 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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At any rate, I think we'll need some description for both tropes. I have no idea how to write them at the moment.

Anyhow, do we agree on turning I'm Not Hungry into a disambig between the two tropes in the crowner.

 75 StarSword, Tue, 26th Nov '13 7:23:26 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
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Agreed.

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