edited 29th Mar '13 9:42:36 AM by EditorPallMall
edited 29th Mar '13 9:43:45 AM by k9feline5
edited 29th Mar '13 10:04:42 AM by k9feline5
edited 29th Mar '13 10:07:31 AM by EditorPallMall
edited 29th Mar '13 10:25:31 AM by k9feline5
edited 29th Mar '13 11:22:19 AM by EditorPallMall
edited 29th Mar '13 2:17:10 PM by AnotherDuck
- With the Cho one, it strikes me that there is a decent argument that Harry was supposed to come across in the right; however, it doesn't seem that Cho is a strawman. Incidentally, I think the reason for this kind of example as well as some I've somewhat supported with The Legend of Korra is that the work makes the protagonist(s) a bit morally grey to make them more interesting, but arguably doesn't really adequately have them called out for it; still, that doesn't make characters opposed to the protagonist strawmen.
- With Umbridge, I think there could be an example noting that she was kind of "right for the wrong reason" in terms of her hostility toward Hagrid or Trelawney teaching; however, this is more like Jerkass Has a Point, since Rowling isn't strawmanning Umbridge's views- Umbridge just has evil views.
- Similarly, Filch does have a point about the main characters causing problems (in fact, that is a view expressed by a lot of sympathetic characters as well); its just that Filch is a jerk- I tend to think that Filch is shown as having some legitimate complaints about students' behavior, and you are meant to be slightly sympathetic to his behavior, given that he's a Muggle Born of Mages; it doesn't change the fact that he's a blackshirt who constantly advocates torturing students.
edited 29th Mar '13 3:00:51 PM by Hodor
edited 29th Mar '13 3:26:50 PM by k9feline5
k9feline: The position is that Marietta's treachery was so loathesome that she deserves permanent scarring for what she did.
edited 29th Mar '13 4:02:30 PM by AmyGdala
edited 30th Mar '13 12:26:35 AM by Rebochan