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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#1: Mar 24th 2013 at 3:14:50 AM

In ATT the subject of Too Dumb to Live came up. I went to look at it, looking at the Live Action TV subpage, and... ugh, it's loaded with examples that don't actually fit the trope. I imagine the other subpages are similarly loaded with examples where the stupidity isn't actually life-threatening, or seems so to a viewer sitting around watching the work but wouldn't to someone actually in the story that's in a bad situation where they could be too busy to notice the potential fatality (like, to borrow from Fast Eddie's ATT example, being chased by someone looking to stab you in the liver).

At the suggestion of Septimus Heap, I'm bringing it up here for help in cleaning the misuse, as it's not exactly a minor fix. (Also on an old laptop w/ a 15" screen while out of town, which sucks for heavy editing. tongue ) Any help would be appreciated.

edited 24th Mar '13 8:03:36 AM by Nohbody

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#2: Mar 24th 2013 at 5:57:05 AM

I'll take care of the video game and literature subpages.

Edit: Videogame subpage is done. There were barely any misuse there, only bad example indentation and Justifying Edits. I think it that every subpage has banner that identifies it as a death trope.

edited 24th Mar '13 6:16:43 AM by MacronNotes

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#3: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:10:44 PM

Does the trope have to involve an actual death? Because neither of the Pro Wrestling examples have their examples end up dead. The the second one seems questionable in that the incident didn't kill Hardcore Holly, but very well could've. Further confusing is that said incident wasn't caused by stupidity, just plain old stubborness and unwillingness to cooperate. So should I cut both?

edited 24th Mar '13 12:11:39 PM by Spirit

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4: Mar 24th 2013 at 2:03:02 PM

This trope is about a character doing something so stupid that they should suffer death or serious injury for it. This can be shown in two ways:

  1. Have other characters comment about how they should have suffered death or serious injury.
  2. Actually have the character suffer death or serious injury.

The misuse is mostly everyone using this as a synonym for What An Idiot, thinking "Wow, this guy is so stupid he shouldn't be allowed to live."

edited 24th Mar '13 2:06:07 PM by Discar

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#5: Mar 24th 2013 at 3:39:13 PM

The first one should definitely go then, but how about the second? Breaking your neck for over a year falls squarely in the "serious physical harm" category, but again the circumstance that caused it was less stupidity and more being a prick. Does that count?

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#6: Mar 25th 2013 at 12:40:49 AM

I'm more concerned by it being a Real Life example that happened to happen during a Professional Wrestling match. The main page doesn't outright say Real Life examples are banned, but it does refer to Darwin Awards and What the Fuck Is Wrong with You?. Also says it's a death trope. But yeah, the first one is really more about whining and other stuff than the actual trope.

edited 25th Mar '13 12:41:03 AM by AnotherDuck

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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#7: Mar 27th 2013 at 4:39:41 AM

I've found many misused potholes & removed them.

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