RWBY General Discussion

Do you remember times when people cheered up heroes for beating up villains and not other way around? Yeah, neither do I.

I liked it because a) the fight was awesome, b) Yang had never really been challenged and was overdue for some hardship, c) Neo has a ton of style and it was very fun to watch.

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Rooting for the Empire's pretty old actually

That is why I said no one remembers.

Essentially Trope wielding is in play in an attempt to make people's points stand out or make the show seem bigger then it is by adding as many tropes as possible even if they are ones that cover the other or supersedes the other.

Pretty much anyone not RWBY or JNPR is arguably a Flat Character, if you're going by that definition (which is only arguably correct). However, that's not really relevant to what an Ensemble Dark Horse actually is by definition. It's just an example of a type of character that's somewhat common.

Roman isn't significantly more popular than his screentime and importance to the plot would suggest.

And honestly, is there any actual surprise or unexpectedness that Neo is as popular as she is? She's owned pretty much every second she's been on screen, with one minor hiccup. Sure, probably popular enough to qualify for the trope, but that also means she's far more popular than Roman relative to screentime and plot importance, which makes his relative popularity diminutive in comparison.

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Well, that was copied from the second paragraph on the page, but the Laconic does say this:

And... Torchwickdoesntfitthatbillsoiseeyourpoint.

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Well, remember, he was supposed to be a one-off baddie, then the team decided to keep him because he was popular.

edited 19th Nov '14 7:27:58 PM by ninjaxenomorph

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So I guess that means, was Ensemble Dark Horse, now Ascended Extra?

If you're going with that time frame, he was popular at a time when he was one of the few appearing characters at all, and at that time there were very few characters with more screen time.

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He's kinda like Axel in that way.

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Axel who?

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Character from Kingdom Hearts. Introduced as a massive Magnificent Bastard in the second game, he was slated to die in the prologue of the third, but fans and developers alike loved him and he went on to have a larger role in that same game. Then he was a major character in the interquel and is now part of the main character roster.

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I still think it's about a character who proves to be popular enough to keep around, rather than an Ensemble Dark Horse. There's a difference between a character being popular, and a character being more popular than characters of higher prominence.

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Fan Favorite and Ensemble Dark Horse.

The latter is just a minor character. It says so on the page.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

So... Tukson?

Nobody cares about Tukson. He's no longer under the sun.

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The WF's undoing will be Tuksonson showing up to avenge Tukson.

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Did they even give him a funeral? We never saw any news reports about a bookstore owner being murdered, and I don't know about you guys, but where I live, a librarian getting murdered is news.

You know who likes books? Blake. You know whose been getting the most character focus this season? Blake. You know who's been moving the plot furthest this volume? Blake. You know who seems to be paying the most attention to criminal activity? Blake.

And yet not a word about Tukson. I bet he's still lying there on the floor of that library.

edited 20th Nov '14 8:48:00 AM by FOFD

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I said that the moment the first episode aired, but They Called Me Mad!!

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Given that Neo was being hyped before she ever appeared (remember the cryptic ice-cream posts before the character was ever introduced), I don't see why she'd be Ensemble Dark Horse. She seems designed from the outset to be popular.

Given that we have some evidence for Velvet originally being a one-shot character designed to emphasise Team CRDN's jerkass natures, that the creators were surprised by her popularity and responded by giving her a recurring role, she's probably the only real example we have of the trope at the moment.

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That's kind of what I was thinking.

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I think that counts less as "hyping" a character (that mind, we didn't know existed yet) and more "Monty posted a picture that subtly referenced this character's existence".

Like if he's gone "my favorite character is a fan of neopolitan ice cream" I might agree with you. But making a cryptic ice-cream post doesn't sound like "hype", especially from a creator who regularly makes weird-ass posts.

But I'm not touching the trope pages at this point, so shrug.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

Isn't it actually "neapolitan"?

The ice cream, yes. Her name, I've never seen spelled any other way than Neo or Neopolitan (well, after the discussion on exactly what Roman said the first time she appeared). Although I think that might be a legitimate alternate spelling of the ice cream as well.

edited 22nd Nov '14 4:26:10 AM by AnotherDuck

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