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#18226: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:29:50 PM

This is an important point. The mega stones mean no other held item. Which can be huge, depending on who it is.

Of cours, there are tactical advantges to having the Mega Evolution.

Charizard, for example, can evolve, trigger Drought, and fire off a Solarbeam, all in the same turn.

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absolclaw from a church on a hill Since: Jan, 2001
#18227: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:30:11 PM

[up][up] Does anyone use Poison moves that aren't Toxic/Toxic Spikes?

edited 13th Sep '13 9:30:39 PM by absolclaw

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#18228: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:31:49 PM

And the Bisharp line which is resistant to Ghost and Immune to poison.

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#18229: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:31:59 PM

I've heard of some Pokemon using Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave/Poison Jab/Gunk Shot for STAB attack or coverage (where Fire and Ice and Bug aren't available).

Granted, I can see more people using them now, what with Fairy being weak to it.

Though, personally, I feel like Gengar with Venoshock could be a holy terror in a team that uses Toxic Spikes.

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#18230: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:33:02 PM

Well there is a valid reason to use Poison moves now as a Fairy counter for Pokemon that can't learn steel movies.

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absolclaw from a church on a hill Since: Jan, 2001
#18231: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:34:24 PM

Personally, I don't think there'll be enough new Fairies added to really scare off much, seeing as Dragons themselves aren't all that common either.

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#18232: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:34:40 PM

Come to think of it, Venoshock could be better than Sludge Bomb if you have a Toxic Spikes user. A STAB 120 power attack that is SE against Gardevoir (who I think will get a boost by virtue of having STAB Fairy moves and immunity to Outrage).

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#18233: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:35:10 PM

There are yet to be announced retcons, though, and who knows what we're getting on that front.

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#18234: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:35:19 PM

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edited 13th Sep '13 9:35:38 PM by DonaldthePotholer

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#18235: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:37:42 PM

[up] Elvis Garchomp confirmedwild mass guess

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#18236: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:37:50 PM

What's the general Gengar moveset, again? Shadow Ball, Hypnosis, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast?

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#18237: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:38:04 PM

Nah, that's for Tyranitar. Because he looks closer to Dragon Caesar/Dragonzord (and Godzilla).

[up] Think so. Focus Miss could be replaced by Sludge Bomb/Venoshock now that Shadow Ball is neutral against Steel.

edited 13th Sep '13 9:38:58 PM by Kinkajou

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#18238: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:40:11 PM

Standard Gengar is Shadow Ball/Focus Blast/Substitute/*Filler*.

Filler is usually Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, or Disable. Occasionally it's Hidden Power Fire (for Scizor).

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#18239: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:41:23 PM

Gen V Gengar seems to be more of a nuisance set but I think Gen VI just made a straight sweeper Gengar more viable.

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#18240: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:50:42 PM

I use Poison when it's a Pokemon's STAB option, and in fact my Gengar makes more use of Sludge Bomb than Shadow Ball. It's Gengar's strongest move outside of things like Hyper Beam and Explosion, in fact. Oh, and Sludge Wave, but same point.

Poison's issue is that only Grass was weak to it and quite a few things resisted it. As a neutral attacking option, though, it's superior over Shadow Ball for dealing with Water, Electric, Grass, Fire, Flying, Bug, Normal, Fighting, Ice, Dragon, and Dark types.

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#18241: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:02:07 PM

I'm still crying for poor, poor Ice. Poor Amaura gonna get wreckd.

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#18242: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:12:43 PM

Ice is probably meant to be a Glass Cannon type of sorts.

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absolclaw from a church on a hill Since: Jan, 2001
#18243: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:17:21 PM

Besides always getting an Ice type too late in the game for it to really have any major impact, as well as Water types just being better ;_;

Also, I was wondering why Amaura felt kind of different to me, but now it seems like it'd really fit in the Neopets universe. (if Neopets even still exists)

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#18244: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:19:25 PM

I'm not exactly sure why, I think maybe something about the eyes, but Amaura kind of looks like a fakemon to me.

Might be the color actually. Most of the Gen VI Pokemon but are varied dark colors, but Amaura is entirely a bright blue.

edited 13th Sep '13 10:21:49 PM by KuroBaraHime

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#18245: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:24:23 PM

The line art's pretty simplistic for a post-Gen III Pokémon, too.

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#18246: Sep 13th 2013 at 11:41:35 PM

Man Tyrunt is really begging for fanart

Also what's the appropriate pronunciation for Braixen?

edited 13th Sep '13 11:48:27 PM by Ookamikun

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#18247: Sep 13th 2013 at 11:48:04 PM

Tyrunt and Minityra please. waii

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#18248: Sep 13th 2013 at 11:58:08 PM

faw: hidden nerf?
Well, it gives Grass-types an immunity..... against moves primarily used by Grass-types. A free switch-in is always nice, but effectively it means that your own Grass-type could easily be neutered as well. It's... eh.

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#18249: Sep 14th 2013 at 12:08:46 AM

So basically, it's simultaneously a defensive buff and an offensive nerf.

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absolclaw from a church on a hill Since: Jan, 2001
#18250: Sep 14th 2013 at 12:13:44 AM

[up][up][up][up] Relevant

I'm calling it "Breyz-en" as in Brazen, personally.

edited 14th Sep '13 12:13:57 AM by absolclaw

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