The Grand and Unified Appearance Trope Clean Up, now at: Thigh High Boots get usage counts

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Currently on the table: Thigh-High Boots

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

edited 8th Apr '14 9:23:55 PM by Madrugada

226 shimaspawn20th Dec 2012 06:59:11 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
And that doesn't have anything to do with the trope Power Blonde either. Her hair colour is entirely based off different expectations. Power Blonde has no uniting features other than hair colour.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
227 nrjxll20th Dec 2012 10:29:58 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]Wasn't that his point?
228 lu12721st Dec 2012 10:51:56 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Just because Whedon chose a specific colour for Buffy doesn't mean we have a trope. A trope is a commonly observed pattern found in multiple works by different people.
Do we have a Meaningful Hair Colors trope yet, as the general supertrope? I know Windows to the Soul is kinda the eye color supertrope, though it needs a bit of help, and Curtains To The Soul just doesn't have quite the same oomf.
230 SeptimusHeap21st Dec 2012 10:56:07 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
So, do we cut Power Blonde and move all examples of valid tropes to Power Hair et cetera?

[up]We don't have such a supertrope. Concerning Windows to the Soul, in the discussion about Green Eyes and Septimus Heap, shimaspawn suggested to make a "meaningful appearance" supertrope for good examples of Green Eyes, since she didn't see a pattern in the eye colour green + functional magic pattern.

edited 21st Dec '12 10:58:17 AM by SeptimusHeap

231 shimaspawn21st Dec 2012 11:42:50 AM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
I'm going to be making a Meaningful Appearance supertrope. I'm not quite there yet.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
232 nrjxll21st Dec 2012 01:54:37 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
So, do we cut Power Blonde and move all examples of valid tropes to Power Hair et cetera?

I'd be in favor of that.
233 Noaqiyeum21st Dec 2012 03:40:31 PM from a thought-experiment gone horribly wrong , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
[up] And redirect Power Blonde to it under pre-existing term logic?
Liberté, Égalité, Absurdité
234 Madrugada21st Dec 2012 07:42:27 PM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
No. Power Blonde is about the hair color regardless of the style. Power Hair is about the style regardless of the color. Making one a redirect to the other will simply confuse things. Just because there's a term doesn't mean there's a trope.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
235 Noaqiyeum21st Dec 2012 09:16:18 PM from a thought-experiment gone horribly wrong , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
Oh; sorry. The posts on the previous page quoting external references seemed to suggest that Power Blonde as a pre-existing term referred to the hairstyle in combination with the colour. :?
Liberté, Égalité, Absurdité
Could Shiny Midnight Black work as a redirect Raven Hair, Ivory Skin?
237 Nohbody24th Dec 2012 08:10:56 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Other than both involving dark hair, there's no relation.
238 Oreochan25th Dec 2012 01:12:20 AM from Pennsylvania
Shiny Midnight Black would not be good redirect for Raven Hair, Ivory Skin. Maybe it can be a redirect to Hair Colours instead?
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
[up] Sounds fine to me if we're not gonna cut it.
240 Nohbody26th Dec 2012 03:00:09 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ Except the "cut Shiny Midnight Black" option was the clear winner in the crowner.
241 videogmer31427th Dec 2012 11:15:48 AM from that one place , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The alternative would be to keep the page, and both options involve deleting all of the page's content. By redirecting it, we keep the 208 inbounds from it.
242 Noaqiyeum27th Dec 2012 12:57:02 PM from a thought-experiment gone horribly wrong , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
I think captainpat probably meant 'if we don't keep the page', seeing as if we do keep the page it isn't going to become a redirect.
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243 SeptimusHeap27th Dec 2012 01:20:12 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
So we are agreeing on cutting Power Blonde? Do we need a crowner to cut it?
I just assumed that the reason we haven't yet cutlisted the Shiny Midnight Black page completely because of it's 208 inbounds. We should decide was we're gonna do to it before finalizing what happens to Power Blonde.
245 SeptimusHeap29th Dec 2012 03:35:18 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Cutlist it and the subpages, making a note on the discussion page and the cutlister. If the cut is declined, we'll redirect it.

Also, the Power Blonde cut crowner is here.
246 lu1271st Jan 2013 07:07:23 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
247 Bailey2nd Jan 2013 01:30:10 AM from Next Sunday, A.D.
Hey, all. I was involved in the original discussion that lead to Power Blonde becoming a trope, so thought I'd swing by.

While it seems as if the examples have gone in a problematic direction (ie, all combinations of 'powerful' and blond') the original idea was narrower. IRL, "Power Blonde" is sometimes used to describe women in traditionally male-dominated fields who defy the conventional wisdom that claims brunettes are taken more seriously. Both Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher have been called Power Blondes owing to the fact that both chose to get blonder as their political careers progressed.

In fiction, I believe the trope is in effect if a character is shooting for "I am empowered regardless of what I look like, as demonstrated by how blond I am, suckers", or the author is otherwise using blond to convey confidence and competence in connection with ambition in male-dominated fields.

Buffy Summers, Ally Mc Beal, Samantha Carter, and Supergirl, off the top of my head, fit the idea well. Buffy wasn't even a natural blonde, which is extra tropey, here.

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:44:09 AM by Bailey

248 SeptimusHeap2nd Jan 2013 01:47:25 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
That might be a trope, but both the name and the description are wrong. Putting it through YKTTW might be the best idea.
249 Bailey2nd Jan 2013 01:49:27 AM from Next Sunday, A.D.
No objection to that, but I would hope to salvage the name, since it's got preexisting terminology traction.

edited 2nd Jan '13 2:00:46 AM by Bailey

250 SeptimusHeap2nd Jan 2013 01:58:05 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I am afraid that the name is too vague to work on this wiki. Never mind that it collides with Power Blonde.

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