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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#2926: Feb 23rd 2015 at 1:13:24 AM

[up]Changed it

edited 23rd Feb '15 1:42:04 AM by jormis29

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#2927: Feb 23rd 2015 at 12:30:54 PM

Just to follow up on my earlier post regarding the webcomic Crossing-Over, I heard back from the author, who has taken the page to the Sandbox namespace and said they will be further working on making a page that's compliant with wiki policy, particularly in regards to Zero Context Examples.

All your safe space are belong to Trump
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2928: Feb 23rd 2015 at 11:23:30 PM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ShinnokRaiden99 Since: Jul, 2011
#2929: Feb 24th 2015 at 10:23:06 AM

Do what you want with Monstrum. I give up.

edited 24th Feb '15 10:28:24 AM by ShinnokRaiden99

Phlolywag Lord Master-sama from Left, Behind You Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Lord Master-sama
#2930: Feb 24th 2015 at 3:07:06 PM

I'm probably going to add more the Wampus page this Thursday and Sunday when I have the time. Whether or not it's going to be GOOD is another matter entirely.

edited 24th Feb '15 3:08:30 PM by Phlolywag

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SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#2931: Feb 24th 2015 at 3:38:45 PM

[up] A live work page is not the place to put a work-in-progress. Offline notepad files are good for that, and if you want to see the formatting live, please use a Sandbox/ page.

KeyaS Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#2932: Feb 25th 2015 at 7:43:42 AM

There's a comic book series called The Manhattan Projects that features Oppenheimer's fictional twin brother. Oppenheimer himself appears in Stallion Gate by Martin Cruz Smith.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2933: Feb 25th 2015 at 11:14:21 AM

Today's worklist:

Any other comments on Sandbox Mode?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#2934: Feb 25th 2015 at 12:32:15 PM

[up] Sandbox Mode looks like a potentially decent idea that was launched prematurely. I wouldn't want to just destroy it but it definitely can't stay in its current state. Premature launches can be yanked back to YKTTW, right? If that's possible, I'd vote for that. This could be a good page with some more TLC and discussion.

Darksilverhawk Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#2935: Feb 25th 2015 at 2:28:31 PM

[up][up] I still vote for sending Sandbox Mode to YKTTW. It needs almost a complete rewrite, better examples (the only one it has manged to pick up since it was brought to anyone's attention is a ZCE, and it still has that third level bullet), and proper formatting. Otherwise, just cut it. Wide-Open Sandbox covers a lot of the concepts already.

Rocks fall, everyone miraculously survives.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2936: Feb 26th 2015 at 9:26:03 AM

Are there volunteers for bringing Sandbox Mode back to YKTTW?

Otherwise, Playstation Eroge, a stub work page whose creator has been messaged is the only issue for today.

Oh, and ~jormis29, remember that web literature goes into Literature/, not WebOriginal/.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Darksilverhawk Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#2937: Feb 26th 2015 at 9:31:42 AM

[up] I'll go ahead and do it.

Rocks fall, everyone miraculously survives.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2938: Feb 27th 2015 at 8:05:42 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2939: Feb 28th 2015 at 2:44:02 AM

Today's worklist has Cucumber, a stub work page whose creator has been messaged.

Also, I want to put the question on table whether RiseOfEmpressMidnight.Raindrops Hearths Warming Eve Miracle and RiseOfEmpressMidnight.Legend Of The Pyrefrost Beowolf are acceptable subpages (and acceptable namespaces).

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Darksilverhawk Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#2940: Feb 28th 2015 at 12:51:20 PM

No and no? They're stub pages, for one. I see no reason those can't be folders on the main page.

Rocks fall, everyone miraculously survives.
FatherPerf Since: Dec, 2010
#2941: Feb 28th 2015 at 3:19:54 PM

I've added some more content to Cucumber now smile

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#2942: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:18:06 AM

Wheres The Dog seems to be an older trope (history goes back to 2012 at least) that was launched without a YKTTW. There are zero wicks and it's not indexed, though there are 5 examples. I think this one should go through YKTTW if it isn't already submitted there.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2943: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:12:49 AM

Wheres The Dog is badly done and has a line of dialogue title. I'd support a cut.

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
LtFedora Since: Aug, 2011
#2944: Mar 1st 2015 at 4:16:21 AM

Regarding the Hamburg U and S Bahn, yes. It's an iconic and very important part of Hamburg, so I feel it's deserving of its own page.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#2945: Mar 1st 2015 at 5:34:07 PM

How is it used in fiction? Iconic and important are something to respect, but TV Tropes Useful Notes pages are to advise on uses of historical people, landmarks, events, etc., in fiction, not to document them. (That's Wikipedia's job. tongue )

edited 1st Mar '15 5:34:28 PM by Candi

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2946: Mar 1st 2015 at 11:58:38 PM

Today's worklist is only The Tick, a stub work page whose creator has been messaged.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#2947: Mar 2nd 2015 at 12:57:57 AM

I've expanded the description and added several examples, though it is still a stub.

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#2948: Mar 2nd 2015 at 8:57:15 AM

Wheres The Dog strikes me as (in one of my rare moments of having a very strong opinion about an entire page's value) a terrible idea, Not A Trope, and a poorly-written page to boot. I wouldn't even bother sending it through YKTTW. Seconding a cut.

edited 2nd Mar '15 8:57:27 AM by SolipSchism

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#2950: Mar 2nd 2015 at 12:13:22 PM

[up] What this says. [tup]

Also, I say we merge all pages related to Rise of Empress Midnight to it's fanfic page. They don't really carry enough weight to constitute their own pages.

edited 2nd Mar '15 12:14:56 PM by valozzy


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