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For the uninitiated... A contingent of tropers (mostly from across America) holds regular get-togethers over the Interwebs on this site called Synchtube which lets individuals, such as ourselves, open and join in text-based chatrooms within typical web browsers (Firefox, Chrome, et. al.) that allow the chat participants to view YouTube videos in synchronization with everyone else present (without even needing to set up an account)... and we've decided to use said chatrooms to play cheeseball webvideos and feature-length movies found in the public domain which stretch all the way from letters B to Z, which everyone subsequently riffs on a la MST3K.

For over EIGHT years, everybody who gets involved mostly finds good enjoymentnote  in calling out tropes that are recognized in the videos and stories and coming up with jokes to fling back at whatever's happening on the screen, many of which turn into various in-jokes and running gags (a Coven Glossary is kept and maintained for everyone's help and convenience HERE) to repeat in the chat.

We're always looking for new ways to better coordinate and expand our activities and are more than happy to welcome newcomers interested in joining our gatherings.


Complete List of Past Features (and Their Respective Ratings)

Suggestions List for Future Features

Coven Glossary of In-Jokes, Memes, and Other Useful Terms to Know

Coven .gif Gallery (Our favorite moving images composed in the simplest of digital formats)

Edited by SeanMurrayI on Oct 12th 2020 at 1:47:43 PM

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18576: Apr 29th 2017 at 6:28:43 PM

I had too much fun with that movie. A fun killer, fun kills, fun threat stalking our heroes, and lots of stupid to laugh at. Too much damn fun.

So... what gives with its rating? Did this movie insult your parents, political beliefs and religion all at once, or something?

Really, I liked the premise, and while it was not handled as well as it should have been, we watch incompetently made movies all the time! It did enough things right for me to enjoy, and enough things wrong for me to laugh at. To me, that's pretty much the epitome of what this group is about, I figured. Movies that are stupid but enjoyable.

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#18577: Apr 29th 2017 at 6:57:00 PM

edited 29th Apr '17 9:02:20 PM by iflewaway

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
Am I a weirdo?
#18578: Apr 29th 2017 at 9:20:09 PM

Mostly, I think a lot of us are just fed up with stupid movies that try to be self aware. The movie says, "I'm aware of how stupid I am, so you aren't allowed to make fun of me," and the audience says, "But being made fun of is the only thing you're good for, so what am I supposed to do now?" The movie then responds, "Maybe you could actually try to enjoy me for what I am," because it's a stupid movie, and doesn't understand the concept of rhetorical questions, to which the audience can only say, "Fuck you."

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18579: Apr 29th 2017 at 9:55:25 PM

[up][up]Why'd you blank your post? Everything you said was valid.

[up]IMO, my biggest gripe is just the lack of understanding the movie really had of the horror genre and the expectations of people who watch horror movies. I almost get the impression that the filmmakers never watched a horror movie before and thought to make one with hopes to appeal to other people who've never watched a horror movie before. The movie's vomit bag references are only made more peculiar when this movie couldn't even properly pull off a fake out ("cat") scare, before insisting that the utter dud of a false alarm "nearly gave [the protagonist] a heart attack", before another "real" (intended) scare fails to raise pulses even more so.

On top of the mess of plot contrivances late in the 2nd act (obstacles such as power outages at internet cafes, a computer freeze when downloading a torrent—whether these deliberate acts of sabotage, a supernatural occurrence, just some stupid coincidences, or some combination of reasons is downright clumsy, and never adequately explained, anyway), the cheapass ending we received with our heroine wishing the evil killer dead and subsequently watching him maul himself to death before a Ron Silver voiceover exposits that the culprit was just some obsessive nut who Saw "Star Wars" Twenty-Seven Times has got to rank somewhere among the absolute worst/dumbest movie endings we've ever witnessed.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18580: Apr 29th 2017 at 9:57:32 PM

It's also that stupidness that had me laughing out loud at times as well. I found it so absurd it became part of, well, laughing at a bad movie. Which is what we do a lot of here.

I guess to many of you it was more painful in particular ways that didn't bother me in this case.

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#18581: Apr 29th 2017 at 10:21:03 PM

[up][up] I felt that my comment was sophomoric and condescending.

edited 30th Apr '17 3:00:25 AM by iflewaway

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Shippudentimes Since: Dec, 2012
#18582: Apr 30th 2017 at 7:36:16 AM

I have Shyamalan's The Happening and Lady in the Water set to record. I'm still torn on which is going to be more ridiculous, Wisher or those two.

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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18583: Apr 30th 2017 at 7:58:00 AM

We actually saw The Happening. A non-troper who I talk to on Skype sometimes (she's not available very often) suggested it, and we saw it and gave it ★.

edited 30th Apr '17 7:58:12 AM by BonsaiForest

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18584: Apr 30th 2017 at 8:31:01 AM

Spread the word! I can't believe something like this exists.

Tonight, we got a Joseph Merhi B-movie action flick. We've seen a ton of his shit before and gaped in awe at the batshit cast ensembles he'd pull together (Zero Tolerance with Robert Patrick and Mick Fleetwood getting murdered with a paintball... Executive Target with Michael Madsen, Roy Scheider, Keith David, and Matthias Hues...), but THIS.... This leaves me speechless:

CIA Code Name: Alexa, pairing LORENZO LAMAS and O.J. SIMPSON (plus Alex Cord from 'Uninvited' thrown in as an added "bonus").

I repeat: LORENZO LAMAS and O.J. SIMPSON. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18585: Apr 30th 2017 at 4:09:52 PM

Are you excited? I'm excited!

Get ready at the top of the coming hour for the bizarre pairing of Lorenzo Lamas and O.J. Simpson in CIA Code Name: Alexa.

But, first, we take a trip through time to the Electric Playground and, courtesy of pants, Spitting Image and the glorious tale "The President's Brain is Missing". Oh, this is gonna be a great night!

Join us! http://cytu.be/r/TroperCoven


~Morgikit ~lewattoo ~Noaqiyeum ~Finger Puppet ~Colonel Cathcart ~Completely Normal Guy ~TAPETRVE ~Rockonman ~spacealien ~Mystic Eclectic ~Shippudentimes ~Space Wolf ~colonelcathcart ~Germi91 ~Maple Samurai ~Gehayadren ~iflewaway ~Tomodachi ~imaginedbird

WilliamRadarStorm my current job from News Station NT Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
my current job
#18586: Apr 30th 2017 at 6:50:32 PM

Spreadsheet update

The pie chart that kicked off the project has been made. ...well, okay, it's been "made" for about a week and probably needs some updating, but school has been busy, and Prom happened, all that jazz.

When I last edited it a week ago, the numbers read such:

  • 2-star movies were (probably unsurprisingly) the most plentiful of all movies, being 547 out of 1356.
  • 3 stars and 1 star movies were close behind, being 319 and 338 respectively.
  • X's, fortunately for all of us, marked a huge dropoff from the rest of the numbers: a measly 72.
  • 4-star movies, unfortunately, were even less plentiful, only 43. (one less, and we could've made an incredibly obvious joke!tongue)
  • And, unsurprisingly, the unrated films (11 bolded, 4 not)

It's not perfect, not by a long shot, but you can see the graph here, along with a horizontal list of the movies, arranged in alphabetical order next to their appropriate rankings.

The possum is a potential perpetrator; he did place possum poo in the plum pot.
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18587: Apr 30th 2017 at 7:42:30 PM

I uploaded this to You Tube just now.

Yeah, I did a little bit of video editing on a dumb movie (that I am not recommending for us, either).

(Do you think this qualifies as Fair Use enough for me to monetize with my tiny tweaks? Probably not. I decided to play it safe and not do it. Not that I expect it to get many views or anything, but still)

edited 30th Apr '17 7:54:04 PM by BonsaiForest

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#18588: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:29:41 PM

I wouldn't bother trying to monetize it. The video will probably get a content claim anyway.

edited 1st May '17 4:15:28 AM by iflewaway

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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18589: May 1st 2017 at 4:53:32 AM

Yeah. I actually snipped a 30 second scene to a 12 second one by cutting parts of it out so while it looks cohesive, it actually isn't the full thing in a row. I'm surprised it worked so well. The background music was so non-melodic in that scene that it actually sounded natural.

It tends to be too much footage in a row, too much consecutive footage, that triggers automatic content claims. That's what happened with a review of mine. I had to keep cutting footage down until it no longer triggered the automatic claims.

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18590: May 1st 2017 at 8:46:52 AM

4x[up] Everything up to but not including last night's feature. Very good work. Are you gonna continually update this or give other access to edit the document? We could try using this same coded graph and input data to measure other more useless findings for our own amusement ("What percentage of our past features has David DeCoteau been involved with?" "How many past movie titles contain the words 'ninja', 'space', or 'dead', and which word appears the most?"). Endless possibilities.

[up][up][up]What movie is this? Also, I'm not sure if I'm getting enough context from this scene to really tell if this is indeed something "stupid" or not.note 

Anyway... I wish there was a better looking trailer. Just reading a plot description, though, I can't tell if this is supposed to be a teen comedy, a horror thriller, or some shockingly morbid combination of the two:

A blowout party, one trashed house, two teenage misfits, three hot girls, four dumb jocks, a hooker, a dead body and three hours to clean up the mess!

The party never ends in this college comedy-of-errors. Jack and his buddy Travis wake to a house turned upside down after a big blowout bash, only to discover that two of their friends are DEAD. It gets worse: Jack’s parents have just called and announced that they are coming home early from their vacation and need to be picked up from the airport in 3 hours. A lot needs to be done. But just when Jack and Travis roll up their sleeves, the "after-party" starts and spins out-of-control!

Can't fuck up a movie premise, if it already sounds like a complete, stupid mess.

Get ready for... and I wish this had a better title... Going Down.

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18592: May 1st 2017 at 10:49:18 AM

That chart on the movies we watched is a great thing to have, and I agree with Sean that us being able to add to it would be a nice feature. I also think it would be great if the alignment could be switched to more vertical, so the list of movies would scroll down underneath the rating and be easier to read. If you like, I could help with that sort of thing later. I have a lot of spreadsheet experience personally.


That scene is from The Christmas Bunny, which, along with Santa Claws which we watched, was on a Cracked article of what they called the 3 dumbest Christmas movies. It's a questionable movie, but it's not as riffable as Santa Claws was, which is why I wouldn't recommend it for our Christmas viewing. But it does have strange elements that I just wonder about, like the main character being a little psychotic or at least messed in the head somehow, and other characters even remarking on it. She bites a boy who messes with her pet rabbit - and what the boy was doing was cruel, too. Certain things about how the movie was made make me wonder who the hell it was made for.

Cracked called out that particular scene as being stupid - the man is the dad looking for his missing daughter, so considering he saw what's obviously her footprints and could easily follow them, he instead runs back. He could have announced he found footprints and then followed them while calling for extra help. That would have been the smart thing to do and made more sense.

But instead we get an idiot who sees the exact hint he needs to find his runaway kid, and he runs away from the hint. The original scene was 3x as long as my cut, but I think I got the point across that what he did was stupid. At least, I did in the description and in my pinned comment, I hope.

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18593: May 1st 2017 at 11:33:51 AM

I keep forgetting there's more than one movie called Santa Claws, and the one that always comes to my mind first is not the one we've watched (and which we will never watch).

edited 1st May '17 11:35:00 AM by SeanMurrayI

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18594: May 1st 2017 at 11:56:58 AM

On a related note, there's more than one Jack Frost movie as well. One's a family-friendly comedy about, IIRC, a kid's dead dad being resurrected as a snowman. The other is a horror movie about a snowman that kills people. Said horror movie also features a scene where it's strongly implied that the snowman raped a woman taking a shower by using his carrot.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#18595: May 1st 2017 at 1:13:30 PM

[up] And yet, those who watched the former probably consider the latter less horrific.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18596: May 1st 2017 at 3:04:46 PM

We saw the Jack Frost slasher movie (and its sequel) several years ago. The poor actress who had to film the snowman rape scene (thanks for reminding me about that bullshit) was a then-unknown Shannon Elizabeth.

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18597: May 1st 2017 at 4:10:39 PM

And we're off to follow another hapless group through The Crystal Maze, followed at the top of the coming hour with.... whatever Going Down is really supposed to be.

Join us! http://cytu.be/r/TroperCoven


~Morgikit ~lewattoo ~Noaqiyeum ~Finger Puppet ~Colonel Cathcart ~Completely Normal Guy ~TAPETRVE ~Rockonman ~spacealien ~Mystic Eclectic ~Shippudentimes ~Space Wolf ~colonelcathcart ~Germi91 ~Maple Samurai ~Gehayadren ~iflewaway ~Tomodachi ~imaginedbird

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#18598: May 1st 2017 at 6:51:01 PM

Even though everyone in that movie was an asshole, I was the one with the unusually positive opinion (and I hate asshole characters, too!), and gave it a 2. If I'd voted 1, it would have ranged down to an X. Huh. Something about the movie I actually liked and had fun with somehow. I can't put my finger on what, though.

Shippudentimes Since: Dec, 2012
#18599: May 1st 2017 at 6:58:11 PM

Just found out there was a remake of and subsequent trilogy of movies based on the revenge movie I Spit on Your Grave. Who, what, how or why, I can't fathom.

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WilliamRadarStorm my current job from News Station NT Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
my current job
#18600: May 1st 2017 at 7:35:45 PM

Everything's got a gimmick now.

Also, to answer Sean's question from earlier: initially, I was planning on getting rid of the horizontal list on the right because... well, let's face it, it looks tackier than '80s Hair. I was planning on putting them in separate sheets organized like such...

Film NameRelease DateSynopsisMaybe a comment or two
Forbidden Zone1980A mysterious door in the basement of an otherwise normal house is home to the Sixth Dimension, where King Fausto and Queen Doris reign supreme. A rebellious young girl, Frenchy Hercules, sneaks off to the Sixth Dimension after a bad day at school. Performance Art ensues."This film felt like a weirder, less coherent knockoff of Rocky Horror Picture Show." -Radar's dad.

Though, seeing Sean's humorous pie chart idea, I think the two ideas may clash a little.

edited 1st May '17 7:36:13 PM by WilliamRadarStorm

The possum is a potential perpetrator; he did place possum poo in the plum pot.

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