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spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#1: Jul 6th 2012 at 2:44:58 PM

A lot of reasons here:

  • 1 4 examples, period
  • 2 You have to really know your stuff to even find examples of this
  • 3 Don't know if this went through YKTTW
  • 4 I (and everyone else) easily mix this up with Hollywood Lighting

Solutions: (not mutually exclusive)

edited 6th Jul '12 2:46:30 PM by spacemarine50

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#2: Jul 6th 2012 at 2:53:01 PM

Definitely not 6 - this isn't about general lighting mistakes, and we don't want a page about general lighting mistakes. I see no reason for 5 either (merging this with unrelated lighting tropes). And I'm not sure how 1 would help - what is Hollywood Lighting?

Can we just name this Photoflood Lighting, since that's what it's actually called, and that name indicates the meaning even if you've never heard it before?

Also, how about sending it back to YKTTW?

edited 6th Jul '12 2:53:20 PM by Routerie

spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#3: Jul 6th 2012 at 2:58:16 PM

  • 1. Almost have to copy and paste the title every time I type it.
  • 5. Are they really unrelated?
  • 6. A major project, but such a page doesn't exist here.(Got one for cases at night, but nothing for daylight/shadows/the sun.)

edited 6th Jul '12 2:58:52 PM by spacemarine50

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#4: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:05:47 PM

1 - But Hollywood Lighting would still be an unclear name.

5-

Hollywood Darkness (terrible name) is the trope by which films portray darkness with blue light.

Unnaturally Blue Lighting is also about blue light, but not used to depict darkness. This trope may cover more than one thing.

Hollywood Light Bulb is about bright white light, not blue light.

Deliberately Monochrome is about forced black & white.

6-

A missing index maybe, but Artistic License Lighting isn't a trope. We currently have a couple threads open about fixing the artistic license pages / removing their examples.

edited 6th Jul '12 3:08:07 PM by Routerie

spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#5: Jul 6th 2012 at 7:01:08 PM

Might use "light" instead of "lighting" from now on. My point is I want an index like Artistic License Light. (name is an example)

edited 6th Jul '12 7:01:25 PM by spacemarine50

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#6: Jul 6th 2012 at 7:01:25 PM

Why is this called Hollywood Light Bulb in the first place? I like Photoflood Lighting.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#7: Jul 6th 2012 at 7:39:57 PM

We have (or at least had) a number of "behind-the-scenes" tropes about how TV shows are made that date to the earlier days of the wiki. How are those doing?

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#8: Jul 6th 2012 at 9:32:11 PM

Before an Artistic License Lighting index, how about a plain Lighting Tropes index?

Edit: We have that. Hooray!

edited 6th Jul '12 9:32:34 PM by Routerie

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#9: Jul 10th 2012 at 10:00:01 AM

I've put three compatible choices on the crowner. I don't think "convert to Artistic License Light" addresses the issue though, so I left it out.

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#10: Jul 25th 2012 at 6:25:58 AM

Anyone else want to chime in?

edited 25th Jul '12 6:26:06 AM by Routerie

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11: Jul 25th 2012 at 9:02:35 AM

This is basically Improbably Bright Lightbulb. So, it needs a rename

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AceOfSevens Since: Feb, 2010
#12: Jul 25th 2012 at 12:00:16 PM

Not just improbably bright. They also can cast fill lighting instead of just coming from the bulb.

spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#13: Jul 25th 2012 at 2:22:09 PM

Have these issues been addressed in the crowner:

@9: This also has Missing Supertrope Syndrome, and there isn't an index about ArtisticLicense light done wrong.

edited 25th Jul '12 2:23:13 PM by spacemarine50

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#14: Jul 25th 2012 at 2:56:53 PM

I disagree with the missing supertrope part, since I do not consider any of the Artistix License X pages tropes.

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Aug 5th 2012 at 12:52:42 AM

I've already voted on it, and I have to comment that Missing Supertrope issues don't depend upon something being a trope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#17: Aug 5th 2012 at 1:24:58 AM

Had a thought: What is different between this and Absurdly Bright Light?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#18: Aug 5th 2012 at 1:34:21 AM

The latter according to the description is comedic and about a relative strenght. This one is where the power source would be too weak.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#19: Aug 5th 2012 at 1:41:22 AM

Your latter point is not this. It's means 'light source is too weak or dimmer than it should be'. Don't know if this is already a trope, but it drifts into Hollywood Darkness.

edited 5th Aug '12 1:06:08 PM by spacemarine50

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#20: Aug 5th 2012 at 2:17:27 AM

Hollywood Darkness is the next page we have to fix.

Absurdly Bright Light is a comedy trope, and we'd do well to mark it more clearly as such. Holywood Light Bulb is an actual lighting technique, photoflood lighting, that may or may not be suitable for the filmed setting.

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#21: Aug 23rd 2012 at 4:58:56 AM

All right, can we call this?

RJSavoy Reymmã from Edinburgh Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmã
#22: Aug 23rd 2012 at 5:10:31 AM

Is this what is technically called "Aquarium Lighting"?

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#23: Aug 26th 2012 at 12:06:41 PM

Is it? I don't know... a Google search for the term just brings up pages about lighting aquariums. Wikipedia also has a page on literal "aquarium lighting."

The article itself though says that this is known as "photoflood lighting."

RJSavoy Reymmã from Edinburgh Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmã
#24: Aug 28th 2012 at 3:54:52 AM

I remember reading the term used for when an indoor scene is lit so that shadows only appear directly below objects. It was in French though. I must find a reference work for this.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#25: Aug 28th 2012 at 10:19:10 AM

Calling crowner in favor of a rename.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

PageAction: HollywoodLightBulb
9th Jul '12 1:47:08 PM

Crown Description:

Hollywood Light Bulb has an ambiguous name which is completely opaque if you have not read the page. It uses the "Hollywood" snowclone, which can mean any of several different things.

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