The Latin America thread (VZ, BZ, AR, CB, MX...):

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26 Nohbody2nd Aug 2012 03:52:42 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Mexico dissolves their Federal Investigation Agency (AFI).

Not that the AFI has been particularly strong the past few years, granted, but my Inner Cynic suspects the reorganization is at least in part PRI weeding out people actually interested in addressing corruption and slipping its own people into authority positions.
27 Nohbody25th Aug 2012 10:31:30 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
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Oil refinery blast kills 24 in Venezuela.

Part of me can't help but wonder if this is a demonstration of the result of the "mańana" attitude in refinery maintenance, or just a random accident that could happen no matter how diligently maintenance is performed.
28 MorwenEdhelwen25th Aug 2012 04:14:16 PM from Sydney, Australia
Aussie Tolkien freak
Since this is a general discussion thread, I want to ask: Anyone here from Cuba and willing to give me cultural input for an Alternate History novel I'm writing? I've got some extracts posted in Writer's Block and am really in need of some cultural input. note 

Cuba Libre

edited 26th Aug '12 2:27:52 AM by MorwenEdhelwen

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29 MorwenEdhelwen25th Aug 2012 05:10:59 PM from Sydney, Australia
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Did I kill this thread?

edited 25th Aug '12 5:17:33 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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30 Deboss25th Aug 2012 08:12:31 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Murderer.
31 MorwenEdhelwen25th Aug 2012 08:19:27 PM from Sydney, Australia
Aussie Tolkien freak
Deboss ha ha ha. Where did you get that avatar? I love it.

edited 25th Aug '12 8:22:59 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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32 Deboss25th Aug 2012 08:31:45 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Got a link on my page.

Edit: linky

edited 25th Aug '12 8:32:18 PM by Deboss

33 TheHandle26th Aug 2012 06:31:59 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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Cubalibre al por mayor!
Upon the highest thrones of the world, we are still sitting on our asses.
34 MorwenEdhelwen26th Aug 2012 02:39:35 PM from Sydney, Australia
Aussie Tolkien freak
@The Handle: Explain? I'm talking about my story, not rum and Coca-Cola.

edited 26th Aug '12 3:07:59 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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35 TheHandle27th Aug 2012 02:20:00 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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Sorry, this is OTC and I really shouldn't do that. It's just that there was a story I loved from my youth, where the heroes were stuck posing as members of a strange sect, and, when they had to dance and chant with everyone, they'd secretly distort the chance for their own fun. When everyone shouted "Somos libres en su amor", they said "Cuba libre al por mayor". It was one of the best Funny Moments of my young life, and I had never heard of a Cubalibre before. I'd only get to find out years later, when I left my teetotaler country. I also heard from Popcultural Osmosis that Cuba was some sort of heroic beacon of sovereignty and social welfare in the face of sweatshop-building, plantation-growing, drug-buying, dictator-installing, weapon-selling, war-instigating Great Powers and Superpowers, but, again, I'd only get something that's not The Theme Park Version much, much later.

I should have shut up. But, since you asked me to explain, here it is.

Though, well, isn't it horribly sarcastic to call a drink of Rum and Coca-cola "Cuba Libre"?

By the way, here's a poem by Pablo Neruda that is totally on-topic:

When the trumpet sounded
everything was prepared on earth,
and Jehovah gave the world
to coca-cola Inc., Anaconda,
Ford Motors, and other corporations.
The United Fruit company
reserved for itself the most juicy
piece, the central coast of my world,
the delicate waist of America.*

It rebaptized these countries
Banana Republics,
and over the sleeping dead,
over the unquiet heroes
who won greatness,
liberty, and banners,
it established an opera buffa:
it abolished free will,
gave out imperial crowns,
encouraged envy, attracted
the dictatorship of flies:
Trujillo flies, Tachos flies
carias flies, Martinez flies,
Ubico flies, flies sticky with
submissive blood and marmalade,
drunken flies that buzz over
the tombs of the people,
circus flies, wise flies
expert at tyranny.*

With the bloodthirsty flies
came the Fruit company,
amassed coffee and fruit
in ships which put to sea like
overloaded trays with the treasures
from our sunken lands.

Meanwhile the Indians fall
into the sugared depths of the
harbors and are buried in the
morning mists; a corpse rolls, a thing without
name, a discarded number,
a bunch of rotten fruit
thrown on the garbage heap.

edited 27th Aug '12 2:20:38 AM by TheHandle

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36 MorwenEdhelwen27th Aug 2012 02:58:05 AM from Sydney, Australia
Aussie Tolkien freak
@The Handle: Ohhh. Where are you from? Not Cuba, obviously. Are you Latin American, btw? BTW, I chose "Cuba Libre" as the title because it means "Free Cuba." And I'm still in need of a cultural beta.

edited 27th Aug '12 3:05:54 AM by MorwenEdhelwen

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37 TheHandle27th Aug 2012 03:07:42 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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I'm not from Cuba, I'm from another continent entirely. So I can't really help you with that part. This is a book you may want to read, especially the bits where the Che was Minister.
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38 MorwenEdhelwen27th Aug 2012 03:09:35 AM from Sydney, Australia
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@The Handle: So where are you from? Do you mean "country"?

edited 27th Aug '12 3:16:20 AM by MorwenEdhelwen

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39 TheHandle27th Aug 2012 03:18:16 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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If I wanted to share that kind of detail, it would be on top of all my posts along with my handle. Hint hint nudge nudge.
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40 MorwenEdhelwen27th Aug 2012 03:23:00 AM from Sydney, Australia
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Oh... but you meant "country" right? Or did you actually mean "continent?"
The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
41 TheHandle27th Aug 2012 03:33:30 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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No no, continent, continent, like, I've never been in the New World, ever.
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42 MorwenEdhelwen27th Aug 2012 03:47:03 AM from Sydney, Australia
Aussie Tolkien freak
oh.
The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
43 TheHandle27th Aug 2012 03:53:19 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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But do try to get this book It'll help ya. Also, this is not about Cuba but I'm sure it'll interest you:

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44 MorwenEdhelwen27th Aug 2012 04:10:40 AM from Sydney, Australia
Aussie Tolkien freak
@The Handle: Thanks. I'll look at that.
The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
45 Nohbody7th Sep 2012 04:55:51 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Everyone's favorite Latino mellonhead is at it again: Venezuela seizes US-flagged ship on suspicion of arms trafficking.

The weapons? Three AR-15s (civilian M-16) kept aboard to protect against pirate hijacking.

/facepalm
46 MarqFJA10th Feb 2014 09:48:35 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
What are the most violent/crime-ridden cities in Latin America? I got a few names from Mexico on WretchedHive.Real Life, but I'm curious if there are cities outside Mexico that are in similarly bad states as well.

edited 10th Feb '14 9:49:35 AM by MarqFJA

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47 Achaemenid10th Feb 2014 09:59:16 AM from Dodge , Relationship Status: Not war
"Ride on."
The first 20 places on wikipedia's "list of cities by murder rate" are Latin American. We don't get north of the Texas Border until #21 (New Orleans, since you ask).

San Pedro Sula, in Honduras, leads the way. Non-Mexican cities in the top 20 include Maceio (Brazil), Tegucigalpa (Honduras), Caracas (Venezuela), Belem (Brazil), Cali (Colombia), Guatemala City (duh), Medellin (Colombia), Vitoria (Brazil), Ciudad Guyana (Venezuela), and San Salavador (El Salvador).

EDIT: In fact, the only non-Latin American cities are New Orleans, Detroit, Cape Town, St Louis, Durban, and Johannesburg (maybe San Juan in Puerto Rico, if you count PR as Latin America). Note that Middle Eastern cities and war zones are excluded.

edited 10th Feb '14 10:02:47 AM by Achaemenid

48 MarqFJA10th Feb 2014 11:55:18 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Nice list. Gives me lots of choices.

What about paramilitary groups, like the Colombia's FARC? (Speaking of which, should we count Mexico's drug cartels as paramilitary groups?)
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49 Achaemenid10th Feb 2014 12:01:07 PM from Dodge , Relationship Status: Not war
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There's plenty of left-wing wannabe-revolutionaries down there. The Peruvian Shining Path, FARC (as you mentioned), the Túpac Amaru Revolutionary Movement (nothing to do with the other one), the Bloque Meta, the Paraguayan People's Army, and many many others; hell, you could probably invent one.

There's also the rather non-nasty but still paramilitary Zapatistas in Mexico.

50 TheHandle9th Jul 2015 02:38:41 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In my bunk
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So I just read this Polandball.

"Mandatory miscegenation until population homogenizes"

._.

Well, that's original, I'll give them that.

edited 9th Jul '15 2:39:06 PM by TheHandle

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