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This thread is for cleaning up pages that violate the No Lewdness, No Prudishness policy.

Do not use this thread for reporting pages that need to be cut for violating The Content Policy. Report pages that appear too lewd or gushy to have on the wiki using the "Report Page" button on the sidebar, with the checkbox saying "The page may violate the Content Policy" checked. That will create a thread on the Content Violation Discussions subforum. The thread will be opened by a mod if the report is valid, and if it's deemed necessary, the page will be cleaned according to the Content Policy. (The list of pages that were deemed problematic can be found on The Content Policy's page.)

No Lewdness:

"Lewdness" is more than just being about something sexual or potentially sexual. Here are some signs of lewd writing:

  1. Personal opinions on hotness. Examples should stand on their own without the introduction of YMMV material. Adding your own thoughts and feelings on an example is an opinion, same as calling an example good or bad. Don't do it. Don't try and extend your feelings to a larger group of fans either, e.g. "...and fangirls everywhere rejoiced". You're not fooling anyone.
  2. Overly detailed examples. The example doesn't need to be an exact sensory account of the event. Too much of that and you end up sounding like you're writing porn. When in doubt, drop a few adjectives.
  3. Unrelated fanservice mentions. If the hot bits aren't related to the example, they don't belong in the example.
  4. Pornographic writing. If you're writing porn, it should be somewhere other than the wiki. Keep it Family Friendly.
  5. Titillation links. Tell, don't show. We don't need screen shots to illustrate NSFW fanservice. If a reader is really curious, they can go look it up on Google. (See also Weblinks Are Not Examples.)
  6. Pedo gushing. We don't need to describe children sexually. This should be cut immediately. We're not interested in hosting pedophilia fantasies. Period. If a work contains children having sex, even if portrayed negatively, report it as a potential violation of The Content Policy using the "Report Page" button in the sidebar.
  7. Talking about actors instead of characters. An actor is not the character they play. When you're writing an example about a work, refer to the character, not the actor. This applies to non-sexual references, but too often it's tropers writing about how they find certain actors hot. That doesn't fit in character examples.
  8. Thinking a page with a Not Safe for Work subject is license to be lewd. Even when we discuss porn, we are about just stating the facts.
  9. Fanfic Recs for underage sex. We will not host any recommendation for fics that have explicit sex involving people apparently or actually younger than 16. Period. We categorically do not recommend fics with sex in which at least one participant:
This applies even if all parties are underage.

No Prudishness:

  1. Don't cutlist or gut pages just because they're about sexual topics. Sex exists. It's used in media a lot. You'll just need to cope with that fact. Relationships, fanservice, and sexual activity all fall into their own tropes as a result.
  2. Don't be a Bluenose Bowdlerizer. We're not looking to censor all sex off the wiki. If the sex and sexuality is an honest part of the work and relevant to the example, it belongs there.
  3. The wiki is not rated G. We aren't sanitizing the wiki for small children. Sex and sexuality are part of media and we aren't going to ignore them. This wiki is Family Friendly, not Unsupervised Small Child Friendly. This isn't an excuse to make work pages dirtier than the work itself, as the above No Lewdness section makes clear, but neither is it an excuse to make those pages cleaner than the work itself.

For further explanations, please read this thread

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 6th 2024 at 3:54:01 AM

TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#126: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:05:43 PM

Oh I'm not criticizing that. I'm just saying that it happens so often it's absurd to pull it completely. If it can be rewritten properly it should be put back ASAP.

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#127: Jul 6th 2012 at 6:40:12 PM

It's, IIRC, basically a character trope of Yuuki, but IIRC there are other instances as well (ie, that happens to other characters).

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TBeholder Our future is a madhouse from chthonic safety Since: Jan, 2001
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#128: Jul 7th 2012 at 8:09:44 AM

Komodin> It's making us look like a bunch of perverts.

To misquote Guido, there are two views on it. One, if you're concerned about looking like a pervert, you didn't become one yet, and another, if you're already concerned about looking like a pervert, it's too late. evil grin
Jokes aside, though, if "OMG someone undefined on the interned can think something" seriously becomes a deciding factor, just wipe out the whole wiki, because this way it's going to eventually become more drooling than disneyland anyway, so why even bother.
If it's not taken seriously, but as a pretext to fix something and other, well, it still looks inane. The faster way is just make a clear wish-list of what you really want and check it with powers-that-be to find out whether they are also willing to make their sandbox like this or you need your own sandbox to your tastes.

emeriin> Maybe there's one of just her face? The picture's not really all that lewd, it's just her bust is undeniably, uh, tractful.

Her thumb would do. Of course, the critters warlike about humans being gross won't get quieted by such half-measures anyway. grin

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#129: Jul 7th 2012 at 8:17:13 AM

I already switched out the pic on Christina Hendricks.

EDIT: Correction, I switched the pic on the Main/ page prior to the redirect...it's now on the Creator/ page.

edited 7th Jul '12 8:22:14 AM by Willbyr

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#130: Jul 7th 2012 at 9:51:49 AM

Does To Love Ru need to be locked once it's clean to stop it from getting creepy again?

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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#131: Jul 7th 2012 at 9:57:53 AM

[up][up][up]As a user-contributed database, doesn't a wiki live and die on its reputation?

What do we want to be known as, the place for cataloguing narrative conventions or the place for cataloguing twelve-year-old pantyshots?

What's precedent ever done for us?
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#132: Jul 7th 2012 at 10:00:40 AM

[up][up]Try the "no creepiness please" note first.

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DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#133: Jul 7th 2012 at 3:52:41 PM

I've got a sandbox here to clean up Legal Jailbait, but there seems to be a good bit of misuse for "Really 700 Years Old". Also, I want a second opinion with regards to any de-gushing that I might have missed before I make a request to swap the page.

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#134: Jul 8th 2012 at 1:55:48 AM

I had a brief look at LegalJailbait.

Just my opinion, but I'm not sold on putting stuff under footnotes that say "note". I'd rather it was worked into the paragraph, I keep reading the "note" too which kinda interrupts the flow. But that's a minor thing.

It's probably good that fanfics are now down to one entry.

Looks like The Santa Clause needs to be moved to its namespace since it's a red link now. But I guess that'd a separate issue.

I'd say it's not very gushy now and it's not perfectly sterile. So it looks good.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#135: Jul 8th 2012 at 8:14:20 AM

Doujinshi.RE-TAKE was resolved to keep, with the examples being limited to the "All Ages" version. Could someone familiar with the series please take a look at the page and ensure that the examples are in line with our policies?

(And off-topic but YE GODS don't we have some kind of guidelines in place about not having 90% of a page behind spoiler tags?!?)

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TwoGunAngel The Demon Slayer Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#136: Jul 8th 2012 at 10:43:23 AM

[up][up]When I do labelnotes, I usually put them under an asterisk like the hottips of old, myself. Not that hard to do.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#137: Jul 8th 2012 at 2:24:44 PM

Manga.Dance In The Vampire Bund was resolved to "keep and clean". If anyone can give this a once over to clean any lewd examples, it would be appreciated.

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jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#138: Jul 8th 2012 at 2:28:05 PM

I'll just check the page over, but I suppose we should be looking for a new image as well - the current one toes the line of being creepy, doesn't it?

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#139: Jul 8th 2012 at 2:28:48 PM

There's the barest speck of underwear showing, so I think a new image is not completely out of the question.

jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#140: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:01:53 PM

I'm not dead set on it, but since Inu x Boku got this treatment as well, it may be something to keep in mind. In particular, Mina does look kinda young in that picture.

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#141: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:08:52 PM

Power Perversion Potential could use a bit of work. I'm not really sure how much needs to go (which is why I'm not doing it myself) but I suspect that something has to. Some of the examples are perhaps a bit too descriptive.

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jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#142: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:26:39 PM

Cleanup up the main page for Dance In The Vampire Bund, and checked the moments pages (Funny Moments, Heartwarming Moments, Awesome Moments). How do we deal with Analysis.Dance In The Vampire Bund? It's certainly interesting from a historical perspective, but doesn't really analyze the work. I'll edit the TV Tropes-relevant bits, but I'm wondering if we should really keep it.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#143: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:35:02 PM

Cut it. That's not analysis, it's random trivia.

edited 8th Jul '12 3:35:26 PM by lu127

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#144: Jul 8th 2012 at 3:42:43 PM

[up]Wouldn't trivia go on the Trivia page?

(returns to skim-lurking)

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#146: Jul 9th 2012 at 2:58:05 AM

I support wiping the Analysis page. That's not analysis in any shape or form.

jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#147: Jul 9th 2012 at 4:01:29 AM

I saved a backup copy of the text on the off-chance that someone cares and cutlisted the page.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#148: Jul 9th 2012 at 7:27:44 AM

Moving it to Trivia.Dance In The Vampire Bund would probably be a good idea. Just put it under an "Other Trivia" header under the actual trivia tropes.

...except I'm not seeing any actual trivia tropes on the page. Not even Hey Its That Voice. Kinda weird.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#149: Jul 9th 2012 at 8:24:32 AM

Anime.Sky Girls was resolved to keep, with examples being limited to the TV series only. If someone familiar with the series could ensure that there are no examples from the OVA and add a note to the page to that effect, that would be a big help.

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#150: Jul 9th 2012 at 9:39:59 AM

(Sorry if this was mentioned elsewhere, I'm just going through items on the Resolved but not Done queue to make sure everything is squared away.)

LightNovel.Papa No Iukoto O Kikinasai was resolved to "keep and double check to make sure the page is clean."

Giving the page a quick once-over, I don't see too much in the way of lewdness that would need to be cleaned up, but I would appreciate another set of eyes here.

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