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Deadlock Clock: Dec 10th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: May 5th 2012 at 8:49:15 PM

Horror Doesn't Settle for Simple Tuesday. Has decent wickage, but it's not bringing anyone here. Is the title too unwieldy?

edited 5th May '12 8:49:23 PM by Twentington

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#2: May 5th 2012 at 9:40:52 PM

I also notice that almost all examples that aren't Buffy The Vampire Slayer are Zero Context Examples, and furthermore, most don't have links to their pages, whether or not they actually have pages.

The YKTTW is here. Launched about two years ago, with one hat (and I've got to ask: Why hats?).

On an unrelated note, while looking up the Horror Tropes (which is awfully long), I misread Malevolent Mutilation as Memetic Mutation. Then again, there's really no difference, is there?

edited 5th May '12 9:42:40 PM by Feather7603

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#3: May 18th 2012 at 8:28:11 AM

Crowner hooked.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4: May 18th 2012 at 8:40:48 AM

I don't think this calls for a rename crowner first. The page needs a lot of work first. The page examples are largely worthless.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#5: May 18th 2012 at 11:12:18 AM

I don't get the crowner either. No one's even thought of any alternate names yet.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#6: May 18th 2012 at 9:00:03 PM

Renaming hasn't even come up in discussion...

Well, there hasn't been a discussion at all.

Where's the vote button for dropping the crowner?

edited 18th May '12 9:01:12 PM by Feather7603

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#8: May 19th 2012 at 12:05:27 AM

I don't get this trope.

It's basically Meaningful Date as applied to horror films; the page seems to assert this is always the case in horror, but it's clearly not. Also, most of the examples lack any context, and the Buffy one is not an example of this trope.

So yeah, this needs work. I think we already have this by a different name, perhaps we could merge them?

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#9: May 19th 2012 at 2:24:13 PM

Why do the Buffy examples not count?

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#10: May 19th 2012 at 2:41:52 PM

[up] Because monsters in Buffy don't pick any particular day to strike, but strike all year long. In one particular episode, some characters state that monsters won't go out on Halloween, but by the end of the episode they've been proven wrong about that. Buffy monsters do go out on every day, including simple tuesday and including halloween.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#11: May 19th 2012 at 8:28:50 PM

Well, Buffy is playing with the trope, at least. And mathematically speaking, there are more plots on Halloween than random chance would say.

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#12: May 20th 2012 at 3:43:49 AM

So anyway, I'm surprised we don't have a page on Meaningful Date yet, or perhaps we do and it just has a different name? I believe this page is simply Meaningful Date for the horror genre.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
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#13: Jul 8th 2012 at 10:29:24 AM

Clocking as inactive.

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#14: Jul 12th 2012 at 2:35:42 PM

Here she is~ Miss Crooowwwnnner~

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#15: Jul 12th 2012 at 2:49:01 PM

What? Another rename crowner? We got rid of the last rename crowner because, aside from the OP, no one had even talked about renaming the trope. That hasn't changed. This trope might have problems, but just doing a rename crowner without discussing it or thinking up alternatives names is not going to help anything.

edited 12th Jul '12 2:49:44 PM by abk0100

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#16: Jul 12th 2012 at 2:50:34 PM

It's a Page Action (=multi-prop) crowner. So we can add other "fix" options here.

"Horror strikes at fest (?) days more often" is certainly a trope, though.

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#17: Jul 12th 2012 at 2:52:35 PM

I see no reason for including "more often," which is probably untrue. Horror stories usually happen on non-holidays. But this is a trope for those that do happen on holidays.

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#18: Jul 12th 2012 at 3:11:24 PM

Yes. Meaningful Date is a Missing Supertrope here. This is basically Meaningful Horror Date, or Horror On Meaningful Date, or something like that (and either name would be clearer and more concise than the current).

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Escher Since: Nov, 2010
#20: Aug 27th 2012 at 7:27:02 AM

How about Holiday Horror? Does that sound too much like I mean only Christmas?

edited 27th Aug '12 7:27:20 AM by Escher

Nasst Since: Sep, 2011
#21: Aug 27th 2012 at 1:30:04 PM

[up][up][up] Agreed, Meaningful Date is a trope.

Just to see if we're on the same page, the laconic of Meaningful Date would be: "A date that has has plot significance."

The title maybe would not be good.

It could be confused with date meaning "meeting".

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Escher Since: Nov, 2010
#22: Aug 27th 2012 at 2:19:19 PM

[up]I would say "Important plot events tend to happen on important calendar dates."

It's saying that you're more likely to have an important story event (or the entire story) happen on Christmas, 4th of July, Guy Fawkes Day, or Lammas Night than you are on April 3rd.

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#24: Sep 27th 2012 at 1:28:58 PM

The thing is, I don't think the date is necessarily meaningful in this case. I'm thinking of something like My Bloody Valentine, where the fact that it's Valentine's Day in particular has no special relevance or thematic significance. (That is, Bad Stuff happens on that day, but not because of anything special about valentines or romance or the martyrdom of saints.)

Horror Doesn't Settle For Simple Tuesday seems like a good rename to me, too.

(P.S. Don't we have an Arc Date or Recurring Date trope or something like that?)

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#25: Oct 19th 2012 at 12:03:22 PM

Calling crowner in favour of renaming.

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PageAction: SimpleTuesday
12th Jul '12 2:15:08 PM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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