Black Ops 2 (SPOILERS)

Never Found the Body. Weaver survived being shot in the head for God's Sake.

edited 2nd May '12 1:39:43 AM by Scherzo09

No, he survived having an eye gouged out.

Regardless, they still Never Found the Body.

Did you have any other problems with the intel they revealed? This is looking pretty awesome to me.

If by awesome you mean a shitty GRAW clone that's turning the internet into one big circle-jerk.

And Never Found the Body is another way of saying "we don't want to explain this, now go act like the rest of the sheep and stop asking difficult questions."

edited 2nd May '12 2:02:15 AM by Deadbeatloser22

It's some different at least; Better than having another period piece but in the 70s and 80s (though we'll get some of that too). I think it's better than GRAW aesthetically because it's going full SF instead of being Qausi-future Networked Warrior stuff. Also having China being (sorta) the Antagonist helps. The New squad gameplay looks cool too, as well as dogfighting even if it doesn't hold a candle to Ace Combat.

To put it another way, we didn't see him die. Though, I am curious to see how Mason would be serving with US Military after Charybdis went down, but I have faith in Treyarch to explain it.

edited 2nd May '12 2:08:48 AM by Scherzo09

My impression was the internet by and large was "Another Co D game? Yawn"

But seriously I am pretty excited for this; moreso than whatever Mo H is trying to do this year.

I have yet to see a corner of the internet that hasn't been reduced to a load of people fapping over how "OMG EXPLOSIONS AND ROBOTS ARE AWSUM LOL".

Somebody is starting to sound like another negative nancy who lurks around this forum. There's such a thing as turning off your over-analytical thinking and just enjoying a product that's handed to you.

And if you want to get technical, Woods could have survived by ensuring that Kravchenko landed in such a way that he smothered the explosion with his body, and used the one extra second he had to get far enough away that Kravchenko's not-inconsiderable bulk would have smothered it enough not to kill him. The whole Jumping on a Grenade principle, you know.

You're not looking hard enough. Try looking in the Republic of Seafoam corner (true, there's like five of us, but we constitute a corner), where for the most part we're like "Cool, they're going into the future and sci-fi'ing it up. The walking tank is stupid, though, and I'm going to miss my favorite old guns."

edited 2nd May '12 2:18:22 AM by Cganale

Except the explosion happens almost as soon as they clear the window, and thus before they hit the ground.

The office space they were in was ten feet above the ground. The explosion was delayed enough that they would have hit the ground first. Besides, those were theoretically grenades. Grenades do not make that big a boom, even five of them strung together.

You guys seriously never looked at the easter egg computer?

On Black Ops, go to the computer where you could play Zork and stuff. Use the "help" prompt to look in Mason's mail and you should find two "Mr. X" letters. One tells Mason of Woods's true fate.

Seriously, it was on Black Ops's tropes page.

edited 2nd May '12 2:24:27 AM by Torquey

x4 All the GI articles I was reading had like only 2.5 stars.

My main concern is how they handle the aftermath of Charybdis; if they can do that then I'll be happy. Showing how Woods survived of course is a necessity.

edited 2nd May '12 2:25:46 AM by Scherzo09

Quoting two posts I made earlier in the thread:

edited 2nd May '12 2:30:52 AM by Deadbeatloser22

Well obviously things didn't turn out that way then?

Woods being alive bothers me far less than Mason fighting US Proxy Wars in the 80s after Charybdis, but I'll just have to wait and see.

edited 2nd May '12 2:38:17 AM by Scherzo09

OK, now that I'm at a proper keyboard, I can handle this better.

1. The office space they were in was ten feet above the ground. The explosion was delayed enough that they would have hit the ground first.
   
   The explosion occurs as soon as Woods' feet clear the window.
2. Why would the NVA take someone prisoner that they know has already escaped and done a whole load of damage afterwards again when they can just execute him?
3. The majority of the third act requires that Woods be dead in order to make any sense. His death is the reason Mason goes off the deep end, gives in to the Dissociative Identity Disorder that's generating the Resnov hallucination, goes to Rebirth and whacks Steiner. If Woods is still alive, why would he make no attempt to talk Mason down from all this?

edited 2nd May '12 2:45:27 AM by Deadbeatloser22

This all beside the point though. We didn't see him get killed personally and now he is alive. Obviously he survived. If it were obvious to Mason that Woods was dead he would never have bit on the rumor anyways.

edited 2nd May '12 2:51:30 AM by Scherzo09

No, it wasn't that fast. I just watched the video, in showing it to my girlfriend, who's never played the game. There was a delay, just long enough for Woods to shove Kravchenko at the ground and land away from him. I'm not even going to get into the technical faux paux that was the explosion from those "grenades".

I don't know what you're getting at by the prisoner thing. If it's a reference to the Easter egg email, I never bothered with those. I played that game to shoot Stovies, Gooks, and whatever derogatory descriptor we've got for Cubans, not to play guessing games at the main menu.

As to why he didn't talk Mason down? Mason didn't stick around after getting the location of Rebirth Island. Even if he'd just been away from the explosion, the blast would've concussed Woods for longer than it took Mason to leave. Which, I'm sure Mason murdered every NVA still in the area on his way out, so there wouldn't have been any left to capture Woods anyway.

Stovies? Did you play Ace Combat 6?

In anycase, the writers made this as a direct continuation of the Black Ops story so I highly doubt there's any inherent contradiction.

edited 2nd May '12 3:02:41 AM by Scherzo09

Guilty as charged. Stovies has become my universal derogatory term for Russians.

And it's about time that someone caught on to the reference, I say.

edited 2nd May '12 3:03:32 AM by Cganale

Which raises the question of how he ended up in captivity anyway.

If they come up with a decent explanation that doesn't hinge on "Mason remembered it all wrong" then I might care.

Wow. They actually tried something different this time. Still no engine overhaul though...

But I don't wanna fight robots in the future. I'm tired of fighting robots in the future.

So how long until the Chinese villains are suddenly switched to North Koreans THIS time?

edited 2nd May '12 6:37:51 AM by Psyclone

Nazi ROBOT Zombies?